BREAKING NEWS!!! Keith Thurman vs Mario Barrios Did 39K PPV Buys!!

[SweetPbfAli]

According to the website I looked at Thurman was guaranteed $750k with 50% of PPV share that could get upwards of $3 million depending on PPV numbers.

Barrios had a $500k guaranteed purse with up to a million in PPV revenue.

Who knows if those numbers are right but I imagine it's something around there.

https://www.totalsportal.com/boxing/...e-payouts/amp/

There's been a lot of rumors floating around about the PBC budget or lack thereof. They're allegedly underpaying fighters and putting everything on ppv as a way for them to get to the purses they want.

If this is the case, it's hard to do when you were giving the fans good and sometimes great fights on network TV and likely paying the fighters more for doing it. It alienates the fans and the fighters at that point and will be an uphill battle moving forward for everyone over there not named Spence since he can actually sell ppv and live gates.

[MeanestNiceGuy]

I heard today, from reliable sources (which I will link tomorrow) that the Keith Thurman vs Mario Barrios fight did a paltry 39k buys. Of course, Showtime and the PBC will not release these numbers, just like Tank's last fight's numbers have not been released.

It appears a boycott is in place for the PPC/Showtime fights. How long will it take them to give us Spence vs Crawford? I think they'll realize they have no choice now.

State your source.

[Willow The Wisp]

It's tough medicine for the sport. Sure it seems like bad news but it isn't. It's great news. This was an exercise in testing the tolerance of hardcore boxing fans and the limits of greed. The dirty dealers setting this show up received their measurement. Boxing promoters give little thought to ROI beyond their current show, to say nothing of Boxing's long term health. Their approach is like that of a Chinese battery factory. Produce the product, count the money, pollute the soil and kill everything and everyone in sight and move on, building a new factory somewhere else. Now, it would be great if this pretty interesting comeback fight and it's lukewarm undercard could draw half a million buys at the exorbitant price for which if was being offered. But what Promoter or Promotional company has spent the last 10 years laying the groundwork for THAT to happen????? The market is established in volume to carry just so much nonsense. Somewhere, there are 39,000 hardcore fans scratching their head. And the promotional group? They covered the purse guarantees and the production costs and even made a (very) little profit in all likelihood with those numbers. Only the sport itself was injured, and who gives a **** about that, right? Some here recently posted, brilliantly "MMA screws the Fighters, Boxing Screws the Fans". I guess that since all MMA fighters have to box anyway as a prominent paet of their skills, we both have choices about what we do.

[OnePunch]

There's been a lot of rumors floating around about the PBC budget or lack thereof. They're allegedly underpaying fighters and putting everything on ppv as a way for them to get to the purses they want.

If this is the case, it's hard to do when you were giving the fans good and sometimes great fights on network TV and likely paying the fighters more for doing it. It alienates the fans and the fighters at that point and will be an uphill battle moving forward for everyone over there not named Spence since he can actually sell ppv and live gates.

hmmmm, I wonder if Haymon still gives all the fighters $18.4 million each, off the books?? lol

[The Big Dunn]

To make a Crawford or boots fight bigger? PBC doesn't/isnt going to have the finances to pay Crawford his asking gaurantee and both Spence and Thurman aren'texactly chomping at the bit to face Bud either. This was a ppv intent on hyping a Spence vs Thurman fight.

It failed along with PBC's recent run of attempting to exploit us fans and the ppv model. Looks like us boxing fans have gotten fed up of being force fed shyte. There's not one single fight for any matchup between 2 PBC fighters that will be a ppv success so hopefully Al wises up and abandons all these ppvs and "our side of the street" nonsense . Bring back boxing to "free tv",you know,like what PBC was initially meant to be. Every other promotional outfit have found was to do it without having to resort to the ppv,why can't PBC....

You lose any validity or credibility framing it as “ attempting to exploit fans”. You only label it that when it’s PBC which suggests an agenda.

PBC has as many non ppvs as any promoter.

This was a bad card. Other ppvs- like Tank v Barrios or Tank v Cruz, you guys labeled it the same way and both fights were exciting and the complete card was worth the money.

[hectari]

Ppv is dead unless you are the ufc or Canelo its going to be hard to do huge numbers on ppv.

boxing needs to focus on network tv and then build the fighters name so people are willing to dish out money, right now these boxers are not household names, so why would casuals pay?

ufc does an amazing job of building up fighters and promoting them

[Boxing fan1981]

I’m surprised there were 39k idiots who lost money on this garbage.

[IronDanHamza]

I don't believe it sold more than 10k.

Sources needed.

[DaNeutral.]

I'd be surprised if the numbers were as low as that but these low quality PPV cards are seeing a constant decline in numbers.

I do wonder though if a PPV that bombs makes more money than putting it on free to air TV. If Showtime put it on their normal channel and 10 million watch it would it not still generate less money than if only 40 or 50 thousand paid $80 to watch it.

[abracada]

Damn 1.25m total lol,that cant be right? With the providers cut and promotional expenses, hard to imagine it breaking even,even with the the gaurantee purses being peanuts like that.

Concessions, sponsorships, and future royalty release on free TV will almost guarantee break even, perhaps even a thin profit