Comments Thread For: Jaron Ennis Promoter Reflects on Fighter's Bright, if Uncertain, Future and the Politics of Boxing

[Rodtang]

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The only critic Benn gets is how he’s calling out Broner. Broner is done. There is nothing to regal in beating Broner. We know Benn beats him.

Then in that case, if it's a forgone conclusion like your suggesting, and given its gauranteed to be a career high payday, then it's a no brainer. Not a no Broner.

[Rodtang]

I said Ortiz and Benn lacked experience, what are you on about? When Ennis had 19 fights, nobody knew his name, there was no hype and honorariums. Ennis didn't get any sentiments at all at the same stage of his career. Ennis who?

Exactly. And he never got crucified for his choice of opponent also. He was watched with interest as he learned his craft. That's exactly what Benn is doing and he gets pilloried. I'm not sure he'll amount to much, but his criticism is over the top. People should appreciate he's trying to develop. You don't fight top guys until your ready. Benns ego says he's ready, but his team and his common sense in trusting them says he isn't. It's all a learning process.

[rckdees]

Nobody has a problem with Al Haymon except scum bag bob and his cronies…the fighters have no problem and that’s the most important thing… the same thing can’t be said about scumbag bob and his organization

[L. Cipher]

Smart of Cameron Dunkin to use the media in a way that puts pressure on PBC to cut him a better deal than whatever they have been offering him thus far. Hopefully whatever needs to happen happens and we can see Boots in the kind of fights we want to see him in soon.

[Oregonian]

Then in that case, if it's a forgone conclusion like your suggesting, and given its gauranteed to be a career high payday, then it's a no brainer. Not a no Broner.

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Career payday or not, nobody in the US cares for Broner. The guy is irrelevant except to the Brits.
Brits were over the moon with the Benn’s “great” performance over a 37 year old Algieri.
Brits wanna see Benn vs Guerrero.

As long as it’s some washed up American fighter, Brits eat that shít up. Benn could fight Mosley and they would say it’s a brilliant fight.

[Rodtang]

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Career payday or not, nobody in the US cares for Broner. The guy is irrelevant except to the Brits.
Brits were over the moon with the Benn’s “great” performance over a 37 year old Algieri.
Brits wanna see Benn vs Guerrero.

As long as it’s some washed up American fighter, Brits eat that shít up. Benn could fight Mosley and they would say it’s a brilliant fight.

Yeah your right brits care. Guess what? Cos he's a brit. Brits don't care what Americans think, because they're not the be all and end all of World boxing. Brits didn't care about Ennis performance against the washed up gatekeeper Thomas Dulorme. Americans cared about his performance against Dulorme which makes them no better than Brits when trying to get behind a young talent who's trying to learn their trade, as they both are. Thanks for clearing that up.

[Oregonian]

Yeah your right brits care. Guess what? Cos he's a brit. Brits don't care what Americans think, because they're not the be all and end all of World boxing. Brits didn't care about Ennis performance against the washed up gatekeeper Thomas Dulorme. Americans cared about his performance against Dulorme which makes them no better than Brits when trying to get behind a young talent who's trying to learn their trade, as they both are. Thanks for clearing that up.

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I was waiting for the typical Whataboutism respond and like the typical ignorant boxing fan, you delivered.

I did not bring up Ennis. You did. So just so you know that unlike your boy Benn, Ennis is calling out Spence and Crawford. He’s been doing that since last year.

Benn is begging for a Broner fight and you Brits with your idol worshiping mindset are slurping it all up.

“Trying to learn the trade”? That’s laughable

Ennis is ready to fight Crawford or Spence. If he fights anyone not in the top 5 WW ranking then we will criticize him just like we are Benn.
We’re not monarchy loving hypocrites like you, innit?

[Rodtang]

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I was waiting for the typical Whataboutism respond and like the typical ignorant boxing fan, you delivered.

I did not bring up Ennis. You did. So just so you know that unlike your boy Benn, Ennis is calling out Spence and Crawford. He’s been doing that since last year.

Benn is begging for a Broner fight and you Brits with your idol worshiping mindset are slurping it all up.

“Trying to learn the trade”? That’s laughable

Ennis is ready to fight Crawford or Spence. If he fights anyone not in the top 5 WW ranking then we will criticize him just like we are Benn.
We’re not monarchy loving hypocrites like you, innit?

No you didn't bring up Ennis. But you chose to criticise Benn on an Ennis thread, so it's right back at you. I'm not denying who Ennis or Benn are calling out. But the difference is they are at different levels. I'm not saying Benn is on Ennis level and I never have. Benn is behind Ennis. Your making an assumption that I see them as equal and I don't. Benn is clearly learning his trade as he's further behind. I've never claimed he's the finished article, nor have I Ennis for that matter, but if you think Ennis is the finished article then more power to you. And if you think Benn is on the same level as Ennis, as you clearly must if you expect him to call out champions just because Ennis is doing it, then your out of your mind and don't know Boxing. You stick to to your guy and I'll stick to mine.

[edgarg]

This bum will get KO’d by Thurman Spence and Ortiz.. his level is closer to Dulorme.. stop overrating this bum

I don't know about that.. I saw today that he was "the next Roy Jones", I hadn't seen him yet, so I looked him up on Youtube,. He is very good no doubt, but more an all action fighter like Henry Armstrong. He's NO ROY JONES.-so far I DO like the way he uses his longer reach. A very good trait.

[edgarg]

Signing with Haymon doesn't guarentee him anything. Tank has yet to fight anyone in the top 5 in any division in which he has competed. Charlo's have no real signifcant wins (JRock lol). Gary Russell barely fights. Doesn't sound like Haymon is going to get thurman a fight with spence. So I don't see where signing with haymon makes it any more likely that he gets big fights.

As it stands, ennis will get a mandatory shot at spence sometime in the not to distant future. We know spence will probably duck that fight, but even if he doesn't, ennis doesn't need haymon to get him that fight. If he beats spence he is multi belt holder where anyone who wants to be a champion has to fight either ennis or crawford. At some point Ortiz is going to be ready for a big fight (probably a couple years from now), and haymon isn't needed to make that fight. Crawford still hasnt' signed and may never, so there is another fight that doesn't require haymon. Throw benn in there in a couple years.

Bottom line, the best options at 147 do not require haymon. In fact, signing with him probably means you don't get those fights.

Crawford retired after his last fight.