Is Canelo Alvarez the worst cherrypicker and ducker in boxing history?

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  • just the facts
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    #21
    Originally posted by djtmal


    Kovalev was old and washed? Thats an exaggeration.
    GGG was undefeated, could crack top 10 all time at mw, and Canelo beat a damn good version of him. The first fight was controversial but he gets full credit for beating the brakes off GGG in the rematch. He didn't take a century to fight him either like the 8 years Floyd was running from Manny.

    There’s literally no truth in this post.

    I take it back, Canelo beat a good version of ggg. Barely. The rest is bu!!shyte.

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    • Oracle01
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      #22
      Cotto was also 35 and past it , yet Canelo made him look very good, when it should have been a show case fight. Every big name he fights was old and past it, and the others look like crap their previous fights. He is becoming a bit of a fraud, and the blatant ducking of Benavidez is the icing on the cake.

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      • lopetego
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        #23
        Originally posted by BigDramaShow!
        I’ve noticed Canelo only fights either old fighters past their primes or a fighter coming off a terrible performance his last fight.

        just look at this:

        Mosley (on a 3 loss streak before Canelo cherrypicked him)
        GGG (waited till he was 35 and only when he went life and death with Jacobs that Canelo picked him)
        Kovalev (old and washed who got ktfo a few fights earlier before Canelo cherrypicked him on a very short notice)
        Callum Smith (looked terrible vs Ryder, Arguably lost)
        Saunders (looked terrible vs Coceres, was losing on the cards before the KO)
        Plant (looked terrible vs Truax)

        In short Canelo wants no part of a fighter who looked good in his recent fights and is not old or washed.

        Don’t expect him to fight Beterbiev, Bivol, Joe Smith, Golovkin and Andrade anytime soon.

        With Canelo’s trend of cherrypicking I’m pretty sure Charlo (looked terrible against Montiel would be on a 11 month layoff in May) or Makabu (looked horrible vs Mchunu, only won by robbery) is next on his cherry list.
        Garbage thread.

        - Ginger was green as a cucumber when he fought Mosley and still gaining experience against big names, nobody holds this W as one of Canelo's best so quit your bitching.

        - GGG was still the boogieman of the MW division and #1 P4P at the time, Canelo still fought him in his very first MW fight. GGG's is also almost 10 years older than ginger, there was never gonna be a prime vs prime situation between them anyway, Canelo would have been too green against a prime GGG and GGG was always gonna be on the downturn against a prime Canelo, so quit your bitching

        - Kovalev was still, at worst, the 4th best LHW on the planet at the time Canelo fought him. and Canelo's not a LHW in case you forgot. Why aren't Crawford or Spence challenging the weakest champs at SMW, if it's so easy to beat up top guys 3 classes above your natural weight?

        - Callum Smith DWARFED Canelo, one of the biggest SMWs, who was actually a LHW weight bully, also an undefeated champ. You ***** ass haters accused Canelo of ducking the guy and fighting Fielding for a paper title instead, Callum was too big and stronk for ginger, then after Canelo whooped him you changed your tune ofc

        - Saunders, undefeated champ not losing a fight ever since he was 18yo, with a slick fighting style the haters claimed was kryptonite for Canelo's flatfootedness, therefore he'd duck him. Canelo schooled him, broke his face, and you were wrong again, as always

        - Plant, another undefeated champ, with a slick style and much bigger than ginger, in a fight to become undisputed. he didn't look too good in his last fight, ok what were you clowns expecting Canelo to do? wait another year or something, so Plant could get an impressive KO win or something? because making fights for undisputed is sooo easy, and the stars always align for it, fighters are always active and mandatories, networks, promoters, etc never get in the way, right?

        lmao at salty ass haters trying to **** on the P4P #1 after his most impressive year yet, he unified an entire division, taking the titles one by one, all against undefeated champs who were all bigger than him, it was a year of glory for ginger that most boxers can just dream of ever having

        and for the record

        Canelo fought Trout after his career best performance against Cotto
        he fought prime Lara when he was the boogieman of LMW and ¨everyone was ducking him, including Canelo¨
        he fought Cotto after Cotto KO'd Martinez and Geale in brutal fashion

        so yes, he beats guys coming off impressive performances too

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        • Haka
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          #24
          Originally posted by lopetego

          Garbage thread.

          - Ginger was green as a cucumber when he fought Mosley and still gaining experience against big names, nobody holds this W as one of Canelo's best so quit your bitching.

          - GGG was still the boogieman of the MW division and #1 P4P at the time, Canelo still fought him in his very first MW fight. GGG's is also almost 10 years older than ginger, there was never gonna be a prime vs prime situation between them anyway, Canelo would have been too green against a prime GGG and GGG was always gonna be on the downturn against a prime Canelo, so quit your bitching

          - Kovalev was still, at worst, the 4th best LHW on the planet at the time Canelo fought him. and Canelo's not a LHW in case you forgot. Why aren't Crawford or Spence challenging the weakest champs at SMW, if it's so easy to beat up top guys 3 classes above your natural weight?

          - Callum Smith DWARFED Canelo, one of the biggest SMWs, who was actually a LHW weight bully, also an undefeated champ. You ***** ass haters accused Canelo of ducking the guy and fighting Fielding for a paper title instead, Callum was too big and stronk for ginger, then after Canelo whooped him you changed your tune ofc

          - Saunders, undefeated champ not losing a fight ever since he was 18yo, with a slick fighting style the haters claimed was kryptonite for Canelo's flatfootedness, therefore he'd duck him. Canelo schooled him, broke his face, and you were wrong again, as always

          - Plant, another undefeated champ, with a slick style and much bigger than ginger, in a fight to become undisputed. he didn't look too good in his last fight, ok what were you clowns expecting Canelo to do? wait another year or something, so Plant could get an impressive KO win or something? because making fights for undisputed is sooo easy, and the stars always align for it, fighters are always active and mandatories, networks, promoters, etc never get in the way, right?

          lmao at salty ass haters trying to **** on the P4P #1 after his most impressive year yet, he unified an entire division, taking the titles one by one, all against undefeated champs who were all bigger than him, it was a year of glory for ginger that most boxers can just dream of ever having

          and for the record

          Canelo fought Trout after his career best performance against Cotto
          he fought prime Lara when he was the boogieman of LMW and ¨everyone was ducking him, including Canelo¨
          he fought Cotto after Cotto KO'd Martinez and Geale in brutal fashion

          so yes, he beats guys coming off impressive performances too
          Yes but he does like the tainted beef

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          • hugh grant
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            #25
            Nel o cherrypicks but if his resume is better than yours it must mean you cherry pick worse

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            • QueensburyRules
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              #26
              Originally posted by Haka

              Yes but he does like the tainted beef
              - - All beef, ie all livestock non organically raised are tainted.

              Y U a faintyboy? Sissy?

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              • Scopedog
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                #27
                I think it's amazing that people can make threads like this. You really can just say anything you want online huh

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                • hugh grant
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
                  Canelo is still in his prime. A little premature to say whether or not he goes down as a career level cherry picker like Floyd. I don't think anyone will surpass Floyd as the worst cherry picker of all time. But we can say that Canelo certainly learned a lot from his fight with Floyd, in and out of the ring.
                  Yes, I think Floyd will go down as king of cherrypickers.
                  I remember when everyone eagerly anticipated him naming his next opponent, waiting with baited breath and then the announcement was so anti climatic with, next opponent is guerrero or maidana, or berto?

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                  • elfag
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                    #29
                    Canelo has the best resume out there today and its not even close.

                    If you want to nitpick it to death go ahead but apply that same standard to everyone else and then you will see he still has the best resume today.

                    Originally posted by Oracle01
                    Cotto was also 35 and past it , yet Canelo made him look very good, when it should have been a show case fight. Every big name he fights was old and past it, and the others look like crap their previous fights. He is becoming a bit of a fraud, and the blatant ducking of Benavidez is the icing on the cake.


                    For better or worse cotto was the "lineal champ" because the boxing match makers allowed the sergio-cotto fight to take place with sergio hobbling around on leg supports so cotto easily destroyed a sergio would could barely walk.

                    Cotto ran a lot from canelo. it was a crappy boring fight. canelo has gotten better at cutting off the ring since then. it is what it is. Benavidez should have refrained from drug use because he would have had his belt and fought canelo already.

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                    • Murcielago
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                      #30
                      Did you mean to ask if Canelo was the best cherry picker?

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