Is Canelo Alvarez the worst cherrypicker and ducker in boxing history?

[AKAcronym]

Any boxer will tell you that their career is cut shorter when they take more damage. GGG doesn't take damage in his easy ass fights.

That's not what the argument was and no one is saying otherwise. So theoretically, a boxer can just keep performing at an elite level into a late age, just because they haven't taken "damage?" Damage is accumulated every step in a fighter's career. Yeah you can't compare him to Fernando Vargas but it's pretty ****ing ****** to think a boxer, on average, is going to perform the same at 35+ compared to late 20's to early 30's. That's pretty consistent with every sport.

[ReggieKray]

That's not what the argument was and no one is saying otherwise. So theoretically, a boxer can just keep performing at an elite level into a late age, just because they haven't taken "damage?" Damage is accumulated every step in a fighter's career. Yeah you can't compare him to Fernando Vargas but it's pretty ****ing ****** to think a boxer, on average, is going to perform the same at 35+ compared to late 20's to early 30's. That's pretty consistent with every sport.

I'm not saying they can go on forever. Just saying 35 is still a viable age especially when you are built like GGG and have a career of easy fights.

Ralph Nadal(35) just won his 21st grandslam in Australia against the number 2 seed that was 25 in 5.2 hour long match. I'm pretty sure Nadal has taken worse punishment to his body than GGG.

On the other hand GGG only has one 6-12min match every 1 year and a half. Sure he trains but again for like 6-8 week in a year.

[Boxing-1013]

Kovalev was old and washed? Thats an exaggeration.
GGG was undefeated, could crack top 10 all time at mw, and Canelo beat a damn good version of him. The first fight was controversial but he gets full credit for beating the brakes off GGG in the rematch. He didn't take a century to fight him either like the 8 years Floyd was running from Manny.

Man what world do you live in lol

[Boxing-1013]

Jermall was landing really well on Montiel. Montiel just had a hell of a chin that night. I think most people saw that as not as Jermall being horrible but what the hell did Montiel do to become more resistant.

Also, I just saw Makabu vs Mchunu this morning and I don't think it was as big a robbery as some were making it out to be. The announcers were trash also so I can see why a lot of morons were thinking Mchunu was winning. The fight was close and I could see it landing at a draw or either one slightly edging over the other. Not the most thrill fight though. I feel Makabu should have kept going to the body. He was doing so well to the body for the first half.

As for the super middle weight division, sure some of the fights before their respective Canelo fights may not have been their best performances, but they were all bigger and stronger undefeated championship who brought their best to Canelo and fell short. Canelo's game plan and performances were just better.

GGG is older but has always had low mileage with all his easy fights. He still looks good even today so him being 35 didn't have much weight to it.

Kov was just for vanity, still an interesting fight to see how Canelo would fair jumping two weight classes and fighting a legitimate champ and legend in the LHW division.

No matter what all of Canelo's fights have brought some sort of entertainment and that's what matters. He's clearly not done yet. Also as soon as he fights any of those guys you siad he won't fight you're obviously going to find a way to call them cherry picks as well. Well if not you then someone haha.

This whole thing reads like a Canelo Superfan Love Letter

[Dakuwaqa]

Terrible thread.

[AKAcronym]

I'm not saying they can go on forever. Just saying 35 is still a viable age when especially when your are built like GGG and have a career of easy fights.

Ralph Nadal(35) just won his 21st grandslam in Australia against the number 2 seed that was 25 in 5.2 hour long match. I'm pretty sure Nadal has taken worse punishment to his body than GGG.

On the other hand GGG only has one 6-12min match every 1 year and a half. Sure he trains but again for like 6-8 week in a year.

Golovkin takes punches to the body and face for a living. No way can you compare that to Nadal, even though has taken his share of punishment himself over the years. 35 isn't a bad age but at the highest level, you aren't going to perform the way you would if you were several years younger. The best basketball players would easily wipe the floor with someone who isn't on their level at over 35, but against the best in the world, you'll be damn sure to notice how much they've slipped. What you've lost, even if just slightly, will be enough to show itself against someone who is closer to their prime and multiple years your junior. The Golovkin of now may do that, but not the one of the previous decade and the 20+ years before that. That wear and tear doesn't go away. And he's only had 3 fights that lasted 6-12 minutes in what's coming in on 6 years. No matter the opponent, a fighter is still leaving a piece of themself in training and in the fight so once again, even though he may not have had the most "damage" in his professional career, that's still 20+ years of high intensity boxing. You can't undue that mileage.

[djtmal]

Man what world do you live in lol

The real one

[Boxing-1013]

The real one

Kovalev was almost the definition of a cherry pick, and the same for old and washed up.

Canelo would need family members on the cards to get him even a draw in fight 2. In fight 1 even they would be too embarrassed to give him a result there. You guys are insane.

[ELPacman]

Half of a boxing legend is the media making someone into something that they're not. It is up to you to decide and ultimately, your opinion.

[mxtali]

Hold on. He waited until GGG was old but you’re saying he won’t man up and is ducking golovkin now..? A 5 yr older GGG? Which is it??