How many prime, all time greats did Floyd beat

[clmags12]

He was the best of a very deep generation. MFers think just because he didn't fight a couple of guys (mostly Paul W and Margarito), that he would have lost or he ducked them
Of the 2, PW would have been the tougher fight. A caveman like Margarito beating anyone significant is a fable written by Arum and spread by his cronies.

PW, while having size advantages, was too aggressive for his own good. Slow and uncoordinated AF Margarito was able to land at will. To imagine May doing any worse than Margarito is silly. May and Sergio are about the same size (May vs Sergio would have been awesome) and Sergio handled PW.

People like to say triangle theories don't work.
Which can be true. At the same time, fight fans need to follow the dots -
May didn't fight Margarito, but did fight DLH, Maidana 2x, Cotto, Mosley, Nelo and Pac. Kept his 0.
I don't give a single FCK about triangle theories.
Margarito would have been another easy W where haters would have said ''May was supposed to beat him.''

I swear man, the way you defend Floyd. On point, you would change the man's underwear for him no doubt!

I get that you weren't interested in Floyd fighting PWill, Sergio and Marg. Does Floyd have the skills and Arsenal to pull off a win in all 3. Not as easy as you think looking at their styles and other physical attributes.

PWill was long and lanky with power. Don't want to see that style match up?
Sergio southpaw, power, very awkward. Really not Floyds cup of tea. Imo.
Now marg, does Floyd have it in him to keep Marg at bay wth pot shots and running. Embarrassing win at best.

Again we know all you want is brag about Floyd and lick his armpits. Yeah we know.

[bballchump11]

How many prime atgs did anybody beat?

[BodyBagz]

I swear man, the way you defend Floyd.

Derp

We all ''defend'' boxers we like. Just ask the Pac Bois.

[Boxing-1013]

Agreed again. Ali was a madman! Lol He fought people multiple times that most people would have not blamed him for avoiding, all while past his prime. Part crazy, part insane self belief. My father introduced me to Ali at young age and I'm forever indebted to him for it.

That Foreman fight is just something I will always think about as far as comparing what anyone else does regarding 'greatness' - taking on a killer like that, in a neutral site, and scoring the KO win. Just a sensational performance and the type of stuff that gives you chills.

I actually commend Usyk and Fury these days - they seem to have no issue traveling and do so almost every time out. I really respect that in a fighter.

But there is a big part of me that wishes Floyd would have said in 2010 or whatever, 'OK let's do it in the Phillipines Manny' and if he KOed him there. What a fun fu.cking fight that would have been. As it played out, I didn't even watch their fight.

Or if Canelo said that to GGG and fought him in Kazaksthan, or GGG said it to Canelo and fought him in Mexico City etc.

I just feel like we miss out on so many big fights and moments right now.

[PRINCEKOOL]

its more impressive than what those guys are doing. You can't say its not impressive the minute a guy who has T rex arms & is short af & started at jmw goes up to Lhw & beyond even & is fighting guys who have been there their entire lives(nobody on this site thought Canelo Would ever have the balls to fight "real smw champs like Callum they said").(Holyfield was never small,David Haye neither,but moreso than the other 2)

When Usyk went up in weight,it was a 6'3" HW who used to boil down no longer Boiling down,& he faced 3 fighters who have tons of flaws & been kd/ko many times.

You contradicted your own point

How much did Valuev out weigh David Haye by? How much did Joshua out weigh Usyk by? How much did Rid**** Bowe out weigh Holyfield by? And that is just the weight, I have not even brought up the physical dimensions 'But if we want to go even further we can list them'. The heavyweight division is the rawest form of competition in the sport, there are no illusions.

If you reply to me with the answers to those question up above, that is pretty much the end of this debate.

Canelo Alvarez as a Welter Weight, was weighing in at over 160 pounds on fight night. Which means in reality, he has always been a middle-weight. That is why, I have just stated that 'The day before weigh in rule, creates a illusion in the lower weight classes'. There is a whole bunch of fighters weight draining themselves to try and be the big man on fight night 'Alaverz has been one of those type of fighters'.

Alvarez at a certain point in his career, just decided to start fighting fighters his own size. Teofimo Lopez, moving up to 140 pounds 'Is Just Teofimo Lopez deciding to not weight drain himself as much'.

Tony Bellew used to weight drain himself to make 175, but at a certain point in his career 'He just decided to be himself, and fight fighters his own size'.

These are all the examples of how the day before weigh in, creates a complete illusion. What they are doing in my opinion, is nowhere near as impressive or courageous 'As the exploits and feats of competition that I have witnessed in the Heavyweight division'.

[hugh grant]

How many prime atgs did anybody beat?

Well, Pac beat more than floyd, ie barrera, jmm, morales, and prime undefeated young lions thurmans, Bradley with no cws etc etc

[djtmal]

Yep that were at the end of their careers and they were not ATGs.

Since Hagler Hearns and Leonard Duran, there have only been 2 ATGs Floyd and Manny and probably the next one will be Canelo, and Floyd beat both while he was over the age of 36.

All the BS talk of prime is a joke, Floyd was prime at the lighter weights so he beat the best of his time when he was out of prime just like many of them were.

Mayweather proved to be the best of his generation there is no argument only crying.

We know. Its only a joke because its something you can't claim.

[tritium_arma]

I counted at most zero.

[Str8.2.Da.Point]

Absolutely! We are far removed from the time where matching the best versus the best was viable for all involved. Boxing isn't as mainstream as it used to be so the public pressure isn't enough to make many of the fights. I mean, it literally took 6 years to make the May - Pac fight and they were by far the biggest names in the sport.

Unless there's an obscene amount of money to be made, it is too easy to take a path of least resistance or greater prolonged success for moderate pay against lesser opposition.

And truthfully, there was no era in which all of the best fighters faced each other for the sake of legacy. This sport has always been a money/marketing game along with illegal ties and dealings. We just heard more about the top fights being advertised more back then where as now, you'll see a bunch of fighters with 4 fights combined facing off before a big fight. Fighters faced comfortable competition until their name was recognize beyond a certain person fan base then they were matched up with a couple ranked fighters in their division until a title shot opportunity manifested. It's just not everyone acts like a single loss is the end of your career so they refuse to even face tough competition even after they have built a name for themselves in the sport and/or even have a title already.

[BodyBagz]

Well, Pac beat more than floyd, ie barrera, jmm, morales, and prime undefeated young lions thurmans, Bradley with no cws etc etc

Yet Pac needed *'s for -
Shot DLH
Shot Margarito
Shot Algieri
Cotto (and DEMANDED another * for any rematch)

Needed 4 tries vs JMM (and STILL got KTFO )
Needed 3 tries vs Desert Breeze and shopworn Erik
Didn't want the part time school teacher to rob him a 2nd time so.....NO REMATCH FOR HORN (CPGW)
That flash KD vs 1x saved Pac from yet another L

Most of all, May > Pac