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  • #71
    Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
    I'll believe it when I see it. Once a fighter is psychologically scarred; He is typically never the same fighter again. I believe that Joshua is now a damaged and ruined fighter for the simple fact that he no longer believes in his chin, stamina or himself.

    It happened to Hector 'Macho' Camacho, 'The Quietman' John Ruiz and 'Dr. Steel Hammer' Wladimir Klitschko. Sure, they had gone on to win more titles; However, once those guys were either badly hurt, stopped or even knocked out they were never the same fighters again.

    They were afraid of getting hit. They all changed their styles and became less of a risk taker in the ring. They became very tentative, cautious, reluctant and timid in the ring for fear of being hurt again and that is what's going on with Anthony Joshua. He fears being clipped again.
    Klitschko was better in his older age .

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Boxing-1013 View Post

      Who did he beat to get a belt? Just because he was a star and got star treatment as he was coming up doesn't mean he was a special boxer, lol. He beat Charles Martin to get a belt. Nothing to brag about.

      You guys brag about the LAMEST things with AJ. Bragging about a fighter taking on the most immediate rematches, lol
      Yep. Eddie bought that belt for him from Charles Martin.

      Then Eddie had to to buy the belts back again off the fattest athlete in the world.

      AJ wholw career has been manufactured wave bought.
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      • #73
        Originally posted by Jkp View Post

        Yep. Eddie bought that belt for him from Charles Martin.

        Then Eddie had to to buy the belts back again off the fattest athlete in the world.

        AJ wholw career has been manufactured wave bought.

        manufactured for beating whyte, wlad, parker, povetkin, pulev and ruiz (after the rematch)?
        you're off your trolley.
        maybe the lack of amateur experience, maybe the focus on bodybuilding, maybe just the money and new lifestyle has made him less, but you cannot take away what he's done.

        usyk once lost to porter as an amateur...he started early and gained experience, aswell as turned pro late. like loma, the guy has a high boxing iq. aj 'tried to outbox' that guy, probably just to test his own limits as a 'boxer'.
        the only argument now is that 'if aj tries to knock out usyk, he'll gas out and get stopped' which is possible. However based on the first fight, aj def could have let his hands go a few the times when he had usyk hurt, he could have stepped it up. he chose not to and the rest is just opinion or excuses.

        im certain aj knows not to trade against usyk because usyk will do a ruiz on him, has faster hands and even better footwork
        BUT, usyk isnt as heavy as Ruiz.
        aj's biggest issue is he doesnt know what to do in those type of exchanges against shorter/faster more skilled HWs. if he was against Fury or wilder, he would let his hands go, they couldnt outpace him in an exchange. only ruiz, usyk and maybe joseph parker could right now.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Inspired View Post


          manufactured for beating whyte, wlad, parker, povetkin, pulev and ruiz (after the rematch)?
          you're off your trolley.
          maybe the lack of amateur experience, maybe the focus on bodybuilding, maybe just the money and new lifestyle has made him less, but you cannot take away what he's done.

          usyk once lost to porter as an amateur...he started early and gained experience, aswell as turned pro late. like loma, the guy has a high boxing iq. aj 'tried to outbox' that guy, probably just to test his own limits as a 'boxer'.
          the only argument now is that 'if aj tries to knock out usyk, he'll gas out and get stopped' which is possible. However based on the first fight, aj def could have let his hands go a few the times when he had usyk hurt, he could have stepped it up. he chose not to and the rest is just opinion or excuses.

          im certain aj knows not to trade against usyk because usyk will do a ruiz on him, has faster hands and even better footwork
          BUT, usyk isnt as heavy as Ruiz.
          aj's biggest issue is he doesnt know what to do in those type of exchanges against shorter/faster more skilled HWs. if he was against Fury or wilder, he would let his hands go, they couldnt outpace him in an exchange. only ruiz, usyk and maybe joseph parker could right now.
          Not a great record considering most of the people you mention were 40+. That's no accident. Once again cherry picked his way through some 40 year olds. Never been in ring with top guy of division.
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          • #75
            Originally posted by Stuart Chandler View Post
            A.J vs Whyte will end up being the undisputed fight .
            No it won't. Whyte already ran scared from title fight in 2019 with aj.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by Jkp View Post

              Not a great record considering most of the people you mention were 40+. That's no accident. Once again cherry picked his way through some 40 year olds. Never been in ring with top guy of division.
              whyte and parker were 40 yr olds?
              pulev and povetkin were mandatories and it's easy highlighting their age, when povetkin went on to beat Hughie Fury and almost beat Hunter, oh yeh and ko'd whyte too. so now whyte is a bum too. yeh good argument.
              For the record, tyson fury has rated povetkin and pulev. he would beat them too, but beating them is certainly a credit on the resume.

              pulev and povetkin beat hughie better than parker did. pulev beat chisora....going by triangle theories they are proven top level and not far from the elite level.
              pulev was 38 btw. povetkin was also 38 when aj beat him, same age wlad was when fury beat him. difference being wlad had a newborn baby at home and a partner who checked into a post-partum depression clinic 1 month before his fight against fury. So to me it just means wlad wasnt himself when fury beat him. That was a relatively unknown quantity version of fury aswell. how does fury fare against credible opponents who do their homework and are game for a fight?
              wilder is just not proven outside of the fury fights so it's hard to really guarge fury's level just yet. im dead serious btw and there is no hate in this comment either.
              fury did batter chisora, but we all know chisora back then was pissing around and was beaten better by david haye already.

              you're overhyping fury and just dissing aj and whyte. the reality is there's not a lot between them. fury would get beat too if he wasnt taking long breaks to deal with his estrogenic condition after nandrolone use.
              at least aj effing fights.

              fury couldnt even fight kabayel in december 2020 because his body was in recovery from a fight 10 months prior.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Stuart Chandler View Post
                Klitschko was better in his older age .

                You are right because he hooked up with Manny Stewart and the Kronk gym to change his fighting style. Wladimir had gone from a basic boxer/puncher to just your typical grab and jab fighter who was too afraid of engaging his opponents for fear of getting hit and punching himself out. However, I do give him credit though. That boring variation of the Kronk gym style is what helped to preserve and prolong his career and built his legacy.
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                • #78
                  Originally posted by Jkp View Post

                  Yep. Eddie bought that belt for him from Charles Martin.

                  Then Eddie had to to buy the belts back again off the fattest athlete in the world.

                  AJ wholw career has been manufactured wave bought.
                  Yes, I think the same way.

                  Joshua was sold to the casual market, very carefully promoted all the way to what amounted to being gifted a belt by Martin.

                  Hearn made a fortune out of him until Ruiz exposed his weak chin and mind.

                  His confidence is shattered, and was likely fragile even before Ruiz, Usyk dominated him psychologically.

                  He should retire, he has made a huge amount of money out of being basically a big, athletic guy who does whatever his promotion team tell him.

                  Even Wilder would crack his jaw.
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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by Boxing-1013 View Post

                    Who did he beat to get a belt? Just because he was a star and got star treatment as he was coming up doesn't mean he was a special boxer, lol. He beat Charles Martin to get a belt. Nothing to brag about.

                    You guys brag about the LAMEST things with AJ. Bragging about a fighter taking on the most immediate rematches, lol
                    You really don’t know much about boxing do you ?

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
                      You really don’t know much about boxing do you ?
                      Aren't you the guy who said Breazeale would KO Wilder? lol

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