Kambosos Fakes Out The World, Jukes Lomachenko and Haney To Collide With Brock Jarvis

[HandsofIron]

I have no problem with this, Kambo should milk those belts as much as possible, make those dollars until he has to face his mandos, he's earned it.

[Haka]

Very possible, Kambo is the kind of guy that really deserves that homecoming fight and nobody could blame him after all that hard work.

[STREET CLEANER]

He has all those belts, does ne has any mandatory fight? He might want to get his voluntary fight in against a named fighter

[Mammoth]

People take anything at face value

[The3]

WBC should just go on and order Haney vs Loma for the INTERIM belt

[Outwest Exp 355]

Most posters I saw werw saying Kambo should take a tune-up. But that was then, opinions change. It'll let him flex his star power too. I'm jiggy with it. Hope the undercard is good.

And Honestly, why dont Lomachenko and Hanry fight it out for the chance to take all the belts?

Because Haney wants 5 million to fight Loma. Bob Arum would rather **** his wife than fork over that kind of coin.

[Cypocryphy]

WBC should just go on and order Haney vs Loma for the INTERIM belt

That's be awesome. But there's no way Haney would settle for, well, like Outwest said, anything less than $5 million. There's no way Haney's getting that when he made $1 million or so fighting JoJo. $5 million is crazy. That's a form of ducking.

If it could be ordered, that'd be great. Personally, the WBO just needs to make Loma the mandatory and order the fight. Let's just hurry this up, so we can then get Loma vs Haney.

[M312]

No. Top Rank petitioned. They also petitioned or announced that they were petitioning before Haney was even interim champion. So it doesn't have anything to do with ducking Haney specifically. It was a tool to enable Loma to not only unify but to make championship fights down at 130. I think they saw a showdown with Stevenson after the Lopez fight. Loma was talking to Haney before the Lopez fight about making Haney the next fight. So it looked as if it would be Loma vs Lopez, then if he won, it would be Loma vs Haney. That would give Shakur time to fight Herring, and then it would be Loma vs Shakur because he won. That was the plan as I understood it.

But Loma didn't know what the Franchise belt was and had no idea what it meant. He was upset when he lost the WBC belt because the whole point of what he was doing was to become undisputed. So what wasn't his plan, and it was why he was talking to Haney to make that fight after Lopez.

However, HANEY definitely priced himself out of a Lomachenko fight. He fought Diaz instead for considerably less than what he was asking to fight Loma.

'It was a tool to enable Loma to not only unify but to make championship fights down at 130'.

Basically a tool to avoid the next mandatory - Devin Haney.

Loma would win this easily too imo, but he definitely had no intention of fighting Devin - and I see no reason for that to change. I also agree that Devin would rather face Kambosos - as it's easier.

And Top Rank petitioning is the same as Loma.

I wasn't expecting an unbiased, balanced comment after seeing your sig, but come on.

You can argue back, but this conversation is useless if you can't try to be balanced.

[Cypocryphy]

'It was a tool to enable Loma to not only unify but to make championship fights down at 130'.

Basically a tool to avoid the next mandatory - Devin Haney.

Loma would win this easily too imo, but he definitely had no intention of fighting Devin - and I see no reason for that to change. I also agree that Devin would rather face Kambosos - as it's easier.

And Top Rank petitioning is the same as Loma.

I wasn't expecting an unbiased, balanced comment after seeing your sig, but come on.

You can argue back, but this conversation is useless if you can't try to be balanced.

You're confusing Loma with Top Rank. Loma had no idea what they were planning. Also, Arum had announced his intention to make Loma a franchise champion before Haney was a champion of anything. He hadn't even fought for his interim belt yet. If that's the case, then how can you duck someone when they're not even in a position to duck them? It so happened that Haney won the interim belt before the ceremony to make Loma franchise champion. But it was never about Haney. To possibly avoid mandatories? Sure. To make it easier to unify a division. But not Haney specifically.

And like I said, Loma didn't know what was going on other than it was some special award on top of everything else. It had never been fully explained to him. Arum went ahead and petitioned for it without running it by Loma and his team. And when the day came, he understood it as an award or trophy. Something like that.

Third, Haney was never a mandatory. Interim champions have to petition for a voluntary defense between Champion and interim champion. It's the same with the Franchise belt. The WBC has to vote on it, and it has to go through some procedure. I told Dunn about this awhile ago, showed him the rules and how a similar situation happened by in 1990 or around then.

So is the Franchise belt used to avoid Mandatories? Yes. Was it used to avoid Haney? No. Haney just was unfortunate enough to find himself in this situation. He's definitely made the most of it, however, in the sense of propaganda.

[M312]

You're confusing Loma with Top Rank. Loma had no idea what they were planning. Also, Arum had announced his intention to make Loma a franchise champion before Haney was a champion of anything. He hadn't even fought for his interim belt yet. If that's the case, then how can you duck someone when they're not even in a position to duck them? It so happened that Haney won the interim belt before the ceremony to make Loma franchise champion. But it was never about Haney. To possibly avoid mandatories? Sure. To make it easier to unify a division. But not Haney specifically.

And like I said, Loma didn't know what was going on other than it was some special award on top of everything else. It had never been fully explained to him. Arum went ahead and petitioned for it without running it by Loma and his team. And when the day came, he understood it as an award or trophy. Something like that.

Third, Haney was never a mandatory. Interim champions have to petition for a voluntary defense between Champion and interim champion. It's the same with the Franchise belt. The WBC has to vote on it, and it has to go through some procedure. I told Dunn about this awhile ago, showed him the rules and how a similar situation happened by in 1990 or around then.

So is the Franchise belt used to avoid Mandatories? Yes. Was it used to avoid Haney? No. Haney just was unfortunate enough to find himself in this situation. He's definitely made the most of it, however, in the sense of propaganda.

Loma said he didn't know. Oh how convenient

Even if that were true, Top Rank didn't want him to fight Haney, so why would that change now?

Kambosos is the only person who will unify this division. Top Rank and Loma will not go near it, they will claim the Franchise title as the real thing.