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  • OnePunch
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    #71
    why is the "greedy" label assigned to any white businessman who tries to earn a profit? Isnt that the point of a business? Since when is someone expected to invest millions of dollars, but then when its time to take a profit suddenly he's supposed to be a 501C3?

    And if Arum is so "greedy", then what would the point be of him holding Crawford back? If Crawfords star gets bigger, so does Arum's check. This argument makes no sense.

    I'm a big Crawford fan, but this path he chose is beyond bizarre........

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    • Bronx2245
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      #72
      Originally posted by jonnyc420

      Totally different type of situation. We'll see, gut says this one has no leg to stand on.
      My gut says the same, however Bob did admit he killed the Pacquiao fight. That wasn't in Crawford's interest. He did say some racist **** about Spence and Haymon, which even BoMac admitted "didn't help" negotiations, before they even got started! He basically told the public the Spence vs. Crawford wasn't worth the money! He also wasn't going to make the Porter fight either, but the WBO ordered it! It doesn't make him a racist, just a very bad promoter for Crawford!
      Last edited by Bronx2245; 01-12-2022, 10:03 PM.

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      • Oldskoolg
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        #73
        Originally posted by TreyShaw

        And now how is that racist?

        Only racist is Crawford he goes racist on Canelo and Arum with zero proof whatsoever guy is a grade a POS and a racist.
        That’s racist!

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        • Baba K
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          #74
          This probably went on in the Golden Days of Boxing too but maybe we didn't really notice because communications weren't as visible

          That said...I'm a fight fan not a contracts lawyer or a finance expert; don't care about purse splits, A-sides or any of that ****...it ain't my money at stake...I just wanna see fights...Crawford-Spence, either one against Charlo or either giving Boots Ennis a chance at the throne, etc etc etc

          When I used to listen to my Pops argue boxing with Uncle Herb, Steve the Mailman, Jerry from Jerry's Market and the other ol schools...who sued and what who got paid never came up

          Ah well...it's a new day now (still don't care though)

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          • Oldskoolg
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            #75
            Originally posted by Bronx2245
            My gut says the same, however Bob did admit he killed the Pacquiao fight. That wasn't in Crawford's interest. He did say some racist **** about Spence and Haymon, which even BoMac admitted "didn't help" negotiations, before they even got started! He basically told the public the Spence vs. Crawford wasn't worth the money! He also wasn't going to make the Porter fight either, but the WBO ordered it! It doesn't make him a racist, just a very bad promoter for Crawford!
            the worst thing Bob could have done was open his mouth and spew racist drivel about Haymon, the pbc, ans black fighters. That will turn out to be w key statement…

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            • MC Hammer
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              #76
              Originally posted by GhostofDempsey

              Failure to promote Mayweather? He got him his first PPV headliner against Gatti which launched his career to the next level. Two fights later it was Judah. Floyd could have had a career high $8 million plus, but ducked Margarito. Left Arum shortly after.

              Arum cares about money, not fighters or their race. He was able to make a star out of Bradley by making a trilogy with Manny. If you look at PBC, they are not matching Tank against anyone, same with the Charlo brothers. Their career has gone nowhere. Crawford has earned more than any other PBC fighter below heavyweight with the exception of Spence, and their earnings are close.
              A career high of 8 million for a man whose real career high turned out to be about 300 million? He wouldn't put him in with Oscar when he wanted either. Mayweather had to leave to achieve his worth.

              Charles and Tank are bigger than Bud right now. Spence blew past him, financially Broner was even better.

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              • edgarg
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                #77
                The most sensible posters I've seen so far are Johnny 420 and Ghost of Dempsey.

                The rest of you ignoramuses (or is it ignoramii) seem not to understand anything; you are too busy making your own racist and derogatory statements against a 90 year old man you don't know and never will.

                The FACT is, that Arum DOES NOT RUN Top Rank and has not for many years.. He told us, before most of you were born, that he's handed over control to his stepson Todd, and was just enjoying himself being a spokesman. Because he is the face of Top Rank, which he established and ran for many years.

                Most or none of you know, that he never had more than a shake hands agreement with Marvin Hagler, who trusted him implicitly all his boxing life. When Marvin's wife got buddy buddy with King, who talked her into trying to get Marvin to leave Arum and sign with him, Hagler told her....

                "If you try to interfere with my business again, I'll stop paying for your mother's mortgage"...... I've posted this before, years ago, before I became ashamed of the company I was keeping on boxing-scene, and left, for many years until recently.

                The members had much improved but the ignorant are still with us. Some old timers I still see here and as good as ever. . .

                So guys, get some sense before you show how ****** you are.

                Oh yes, Arum, this "greedy ***", and his wife, *******ly support a few Charities, some of which they established years ago, and which are now international. The last I heard was that his wife runs 1-2 full time.

                A very greedy ***..

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                • SweetPbfAli
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Scopedog
                  Like I said in the other thread I really doubt the racism accusations specifically will stick but if nothing else, you'd think Arum openly trashing him in interviews when that's the exact opposite of his job as a promoter would constitute a breach of contract, at least of the implied terms if not the explicit ones.
                  This is where I fall in it as well. I think the angle of the lawsuit is misguided and nearly impossible to prove. The constant public diatribes about his value is another thing entirely.

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                  • edgarg
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Oregonian
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                    I didn’t say he was a racist. Maybe he is, maybe he isn’t. He is just a turd, that’s all.
                    I was debunking the Floyd narrative that Ghost of Dempsey was putting out, especially about Margarito.
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                    What he said about the Margarito-Mayweather proposed fight is basically true. Arum offered Mayweather $8 mill to fight Margarito, Mayweather wanted MORE. He said he could get MORE. He was already planning to leave Top Rank, and used that as an excuse. Mayweather was the REAL DEAL, -as a swelled head monster..

                    In fact it was true, he DID get more after he left Arum. His first fight, as reported in Boxingscene..yes this site, was that he got $8 mill and ONE cent.

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                    • TreyShaw
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Oldskoolg

                      That’s racist!
                      Yes Crawford is a racist.

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