Comments Thread For: Arum: Crawford's Lawsuit Is Frivolous; Court Will See Case As Malicious Extortion Attempt It Is

[GhostofDempsey]

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Context matters. What you wrote is true but only when looked at without context.
Gatti was a PPV star and that was Floyd’s first fight at 140, no thanks to Bob.
As for Judah, again, no thanks to Bob. Floyd and Zab had beef going into that fight and it was Floyd who followed that fight (plus Baldomir) to have leverage against his main goal, Oscar.

Lastly, Margarito offered Floyd $8 million when he himself had NEVER made anything more than $2 mil at that time. And that same year Floyd bought out his contract after Arum said he couldn’t pay Floyd $20 mil for the Oscar fight. A year later Floyd got Oscar and made $25 mil.
Every other fighter after that made the biggest paydays fighting Floyd including Cotto who also dumped Arum.

Context matters. I’ve read many of your posts and you always make compelling arguments.

Arum gets the credit for making the Gatti and Judah fights. Gatti was a big name ripe for the plucking, and Judah was coming off a loss to Baldomir. Arum offered Floyd an $8m contract to fight Margarito, Floyd claimed his hand hurt but was basically ducking him and waiting on Oscar. Same way Manny was a rising star when he signed with Arum, and three years later Top Rank got him the De La Hoya fight which put his career on the next level. Was able to put together trilogies with Morales, Marquez and Bradley. We can’t assume that any promoter in the business would have made the same fights or earned him the same amount of money.

PBC hasn’t produced any stars from the ground up besides Spence, and GBP was fortunate to have Canelo, yet Oscar deserves some credit for navigating Canelo’s career to super stardom. Could Arum, Haymon, Goosen, Duva done the same? Maybe.

Boxing promoters have to deal with more egos today. Every fighter wants to remain undefeated and expects their careers to be groomed with low-risk/high reward fights. No one wants to concede for the short end of a purse. Crawford and Spence refused to meet halfway and now that fight is dying on the vine. Spence may be damaged goods and Crawford is in need of a dance partner, but no one wants to fight him. Thurman has expressed interest, but who knows what the purse demands will be. I’m not sure anyone else could have done more for Crawford.

[GBP4LIFE]

Bud Crawford been getting overpaid and realized that the grass is not greener right now lol.. He missed all of that DAZN money & couldn’t tap in when Triller was paying out lol

[jonnyc420]

Arum gets the credit for making the Gatti and Judah fights. Gatti was a big name ripe for the plucking, and Judah was coming off a loss to Baldomir. Arum offered Floyd an $8m contract to fight Margarito, Floyd claimed his hand hurt but was basically ducking him and waiting on Oscar. Same way Manny was a rising star when he signed with Arum, and three years later Top Rank got him the De La Hoya fight which put his career on the next level. Was able to put together trilogies with Morales, Marquez and Bradley. We can’t assume that any promoter in the business would have made the same fights or earned him the same amount of money.

PBC hasn’t produced any stars from the ground up besides Spence, and GBP was fortunate to have Canelo, yet Oscar deserves some credit for navigating Canelo’s career to super stardom. Could Arum, Haymon, Goosen, Duva done the same? Maybe.

Boxing promoters have to deal with more egos today. Every fighter wants to remain undefeated and expects their careers to be groomed with low-risk/high reward fights. No one wants to concede for the short end of a purse. Crawford and Spence refused to meet halfway and now that fight is dying on the vine. Spence may be damaged goods and Crawford is in need of a dance partner, but no one wants to fight him. Thurman has expressed interest, but who knows what the purse demands will be. I’m not sure anyone else could have done more for Crawford.

Killed it, great post. This is all very true and right on the nose.

[hitmanjosh]

This is laughable.......
The fking guy signed multiple contracts with the company
what's next, he claims he was a slave and had no choice

That was good, but you could have left that slave s(hit) out, don’t get yo a(Ss) internet beat!

[jonnyc420]

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What a racist thing to say on an article about Arum being a racist.

Why is it racist? Please explain.

[sicko]

Bob is well Connected and been around a long time so he will be hard to beat in court

[Oregonian]

Context does matter, and in order for those fights to be made Arum had to be involved and allow the fighter he promoted to fight. If Arum was a racist why did he pay to save Floyd's life? You do know that story, if you dont I suggest you look it up. Also Arum has promoted several black men we see as legends of the sport. I just don't think you can prove he is a racist based off his decades in the sport. Not to mention Crawford's choice to resign with Arum. I'm sorry but why would he resign if he viewed the man as a racist? I know people love the whole victim mentality running rampant recently but please show definitive proof the man is racist.

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I didn’t say he was a racist. Maybe he is, maybe he isn’t. He is just a turd, that’s all.
I was debunking the Floyd narrative that Ghost of Dempsey was putting out, especially about Margarito.

[Jsmooth9876]

That was good, but you could have left that slave s(hit) out, don’t get yo a(Ss) internet beat!

I've been beat down so many times on the internet I am unfazed by it at this point lol
I'm sick and tired of all the racism BS.. This dude had the opportunity to bounce if he thought it was so bad but instead he signed a multi year extension and got paid millions. He wants to sue for not getting the Spence fight? How can he get a fight with someone who don't want a fight and when he wasn't willing to negotiate a purse split anyway

[Oregonian]

Why is it racist? Please explain.

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I was responding to this post

Originally posted by TreyShaw View Post
Arum better not get to confident because times are different now they're awarding blacks folks everything nowadays just to keep that *** crap happy.
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Introducing *** narrative into a boxing topic. And more important, “they are awarding black folks everything nowadays”?

You don’t see anything wrong with that statement?

[jonnyc420]

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I didn’t say he was a racist. Maybe he is, maybe he isn’t. He is just a turd, that’s all.
I was debunking the Floyd narrative that Ghost of Dempsey was putting out, especially about Margarito.

Do you personally believe so? I agree the man is greedy but I just dont think he is a racist and there is no proof otherwise.