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  • #41
    Originally posted by Shadoww702 View Post

    Of course not don't be silly. But what he did do was make history who only 5 other boxers have ever done.
    which is exactly why I said he should get fighter of the year. I’m just saying that other guys have had better wins. 168 wasn’t a particularly strong division just like 140 wasn’t all that great when Crawford unified it.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo View Post

      Remember when Haymonite YouTube channels aka the LDBC and other Canelo haters on this site said “Plant is bigger than Canelo and fights like Floyd, slick. Caleb got a chance.” Little did they not acknowledge that Smith, BJS and even Yildirim were all bigger than Canelo. Do fans not realize that in his last 4 fights all his opponents were bigger than him and yet Canelo haters cry that he was heavily favored? In a street fight does one gamble on the smaller guy to beat 4 bigger back to back? Or does context skills matter? It’s like cards would protect Smith’s left hook from Canelo
      Only a true douche bag (you) could turn a post that names your favorite fighter as the fighter of the year into something about Haymon. And what’s your weird negative obsession with Haymon anyway? He paid Canelo his money and that’s not something every promotional entity can say.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by ruedboy View Post
        Respect to Alvarez, he won 3x and he unified the SMW division,
        but for me, Usyk had the more "historic" win and the one that fans will remember.
        I disagree.

        Usyk beat a guy by decision who was one fight removed from being destroyed by a chubby obiesed HW. Joshua hasn't been the same since Ruiz knocked him out.

        Canelo beat two undefeated highly ranked guys who had never beeen exposed nor dropped prior to canelo beating them.

        SORRY but usyks win over a damaged one fight Removed from being KTFO Joshua has become too overrated.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo View Post

          He did struggle with BJS though even though Billy isn't nearly as tough to hit as Andrade
          Until he caved his face in part-way through the fight, yes.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by rrayvez View Post
            he didn’t fight 3 undefeated champions in 2021. He fought a low level mandatory that was coming off a loss and over a year of inactivity. Ironically that loss was to Dirrell, the same Dirrell that Reynoso discredited when using the typical “who has he beat” argument when discussing why Benavidez doesn’t deserve a canelo fight. He fought Saunders who hasn’t fought more than twice in any calendar year since 2013 and whose biggest win is Lemieux a few years ago. Lastly he fought a young champion whose biggest win was against Jose Uzcategui and hasn’t looked impressive since.

            So while neither Benavidez nor Charlo have faced hall of fame level opposition either, anyone with any knowledge of boxing who knows what they’re looking at , can tell that Charlo and especially Benavidez would’ve put up better fights than those 3 guys combined because they wouldn’t have stopped trying to win the way his opposition this year did.
            I stand corrected. He fought 3 undefeated champions in short order. As of this morning, It looks like Charlo is up next for Canelo unless Charlo prices himself out of course. He ducked Canelo once so it would not surprise me if that fight falls through. Let's hope the Benevidiez fight happens. That might turn out to be an easy fight for Canelo.

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            • #46
              Gotta be Canelo overall although as far as singular wins go I got Usyk over Joshua and Kambosos over Teo as better than either of Canelo's biggest wins.

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              • #47
                People talking like Canelo should win fighter of the year because he's had a really active year... get a grip of yourself! He only managed to secure these fights because he is the cash cow of boxing, has the WBC supporting him and has promoters bending over backwards for him - all in the midst of a worldwide pandemic for God's sake!! Unfortunately not every other fighter receives the luxury treatment that Canelo gets hence why most have only fought once or at a very max twice in the last 12 months.

                If we're actually talking about fighter of the year in ordinary terms than Usyk should win it with Kambosis runner up. Both were underdogs in their fights (Kambosis heavily so) against unified champions with strong resumes and both won... convincingly as well, from start to finish! In Canelo's case I can only afford him credit for beating BJS which was a decent win - the rest was trash... Yildrim, the big stiff punch bag, was lined up for Canelo by the WBC and was recently beaten by some bum called Cullen... and plant was a domestic level bum - should that win you fighter of the year? Absolutely not, especially considering what Usyk and Kambosis achieved and the fact that Canelo's fights were underwhelming until the end came.

                ruedboy ruedboy likes this.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Elastic Rec0il View Post
                  People talking like Canelo should win fighter of the year because he's had a really active year... get a grip of yourself! He only managed to secure these fights because he is the cash cow of boxing, has the WBC supporting him and has promoters bending over backwards for him - all in the midst of a worldwide pandemic for God's sake!! Unfortunately not every other fighter receives the luxury treatment that Canelo gets hence why most have only fought once or at a very max twice in the last 12 months.

                  If we're actually talking about fighter of the year in ordinary terms than Usyk should win it with Kambosis runner up. Both were underdogs in their fights (Kambosis heavily so) against unified champions with strong resumes and both won... convincingly as well, from start to finish! In Canelo's case I can only afford him credit for beating BJS which was a decent win - the rest was trash... Yildrim, the big stiff punch bag, was lined up for Canelo by the WBC and was recently beaten by some bum called Cullen... and plant was a domestic level bum - should that win you fighter of the year? Absolutely not, especially considering what Usyk and Kambosis achieved and the fact that Canelo's fights were underwhelming until the end came.
                  Undeniably Canelo has major advantages in securing fights and no, it ain't fair, but nonetheless he has still had in sum more / better fights than any other fighter - at least IMO - and no. I ain't really a fan. If Usyk or Kambosos had even had one more fight against a top 5 opponent in their respective divisions in 2021 then I'd give em due consideration but for me fighting once a year, even against a top class opponent just ain't enough. Like I say I value activity highly.

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                  • #49
                    [QUOTE=rrayvez;n31256473] I never said he shouldn’t be fighter of the year. I’m just putting his year and opposition into context. I think there are several guys who had individual wins against better opposition than any of Canelo’s 3 opponents, but none fought 3 times. Canelo gets it due to unifying and activity level but if we’re being honest, none of the 3 wins were standout wins.

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                    LMFAO. ***** about canelo being FOTY but agree that he should be FOTY. Cant make this up

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Shrap View Post
                      He won 3 fights that he was heavily favoured to win in. Amazing.


                      he still cleared out a division and has a high activity. this guy has taken fights as short as 90 days from his last fight but people still complain.

                      i will complain myself if/when he ducks beterbiev but he still has the best resume today.

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