Comments Thread For: Arum Pours Cold Water Over Beterbiev-Bivol: That Fight Has No Pizzazz; Bivol Is Sort Of Boring

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  • BaguMka
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    #71
    I told you all before that Bivol and Beterbiev would love to fight each other but promoters block this fight especially Bob arum

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    • tokon
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      #72
      Originally posted by paulf
      I agree 100% - fight does not make sense. Beterbiev-Gvozdyk did like 500k views on ESPN and flopped in ticket sales. Beterbiev-Bivol would do the same - there is zero appetite to see two Russian champions face each other in America. If the demand was there to make big money putting on the event in Russia, Arum would be all for it. But there isn't.

      You don't do unification fights when neither guy brings any money to the table and the fight will flop, especially when the two boxers are with different promoters. Those fights should not and do not get made.

      The point of putting on boxing events is to make money. Promoters and fights will lose money building up to world title and unification fights to because that's where they make their investment back and hit pay-dirt. You don't put on unification fights that no one will watch that lose money.
      Reality bites!

      Thanks.

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      • tokon
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        #73
        Originally posted by DaNeutral.
        World title unification anybody? ERRRR no thanks some creepy old kiddy fiddler doesn't think it has enough Pizzazz. Ohhh, forget it then.

        THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AT WITH THE SPORT OF BOXING FOLKS. Fkking American promoters.
        Hearn and Warren are no better.

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          #74
          Originally posted by Cypocryphy
          What a load of ****. Maybe it's me because some of my favorite boxers to watch are Mayweather, Lara, Rigondeaux, Usyk, Lomachenko and Bivol. What do they all have in common? You know. Bivol control of distance and timing are beyond the stratosphere. Anyone can see that. Arum is up to his stingy ways again, unwilling to pay for the true value of this fight. He's probably seeing Alavrez looming on the horizon.
          Bivol $$$ or canelo $$$; which do you think Beterbiev/Bivol/Smith want their promoter to push for?

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          • Ry92
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            #75
            Bob no big fights arum loves getting in the way of fights. The worse modern big time promoter hearn way better so is haymon retire bob please

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              #76
              Bob is a cancer of boxing, at least the more recent bob. Bivol/beterbiev is an intriguing match, but bob thinks he speaks for the fans. I for one would like to see it. He is so out of touch. Just retire and let someone fresh make these decisions. He is 90 and still wants to hog the limelight, and even run down his own fighters who worked for his brand.

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                #77
                Originally posted by Lance98
                Bob is a cancer of boxing, at least the more recent bob. Bivol/beterbiev is an intriguing match, but bob thinks he speaks for the fans. I for one would like to see it. He is so out of touch. Just retire and let someone fresh make these decisions. He is 90 and still wants to hog the limelight, and even run down his own fighters who worked for his brand.
                most of boxing fans would love to see this fight however greedy ***ish Bob wants Beterbiev to fight pednelo but this fight wont happen till Artur gets pre retirement age...very sad

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                • Boxing Logic
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                  #78
                  I thought Beterbiev wanted undisputed? GGG 2.0, full of it.

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                  • elfag
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                    #79
                    that is literally the number 1 fight to make at 175 and has been that way for several years


                    boxing is a joke sometimes. so now we dont get bivol-beterbiev because arum doesnt want to risk and L and rather hold out for a canelo fight. But canelo rather jump to 190 against some cruiserweight bum than fight beterbiev. So because of everyone's low risk stratgy we miss out on two great matchups and now get to see them fight bums instead

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by paulf
                      I agree 100% - fight does not make sense. Beterbiev-Gvozdyk did like 500k views on ESPN and flopped in ticket sales. Beterbiev-Bivol would do the same - there is zero appetite to see two Russian champions face each other in America. If the demand was there to make big money putting on the event in Russia, Arum would be all for it. But there isn't.

                      You don't do unification fights when neither guy brings any money to the table and the fight will flop, especially when the two boxers are with different promoters. Those fights should not and do not get made.

                      The point of putting on boxing events is to make money. Promoters and fights will lose money building up to world title and unification fights to because that's where they make their investment back and hit pay-dirt. You don't put on unification fights that no one will watch that lose money.
                      Then all these top Eastern European boxers should stop lying to fans by marketing themselves as chasing "all the belts" in their division. Instead they need to be honest and say, "I am only going to fight for all the belts if there is no other Eastern European titlist in my division, because there is not enough money for two Eastern Europeans titlists to fight each other."

                      And we also need to stop putting any importance on undisputed since it is clearly then a function of opportunity related to economics and demographics, not boxing ability.

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