Comments Thread For: Warren Fires Back At Hearn Over Fury-Whyte Rematch Clause

[WBC WBA IBF]

Usyk would have had to sign it too to fight for the other belts, otherwise could AJ have just defended the WBO and not put the others on the line?

No, AJ couldn't have just defended the WBO without getting stripped of the others. The WBA and IBF want their sanctioning fee too.

Usyk's team wasn't confident Usyk would win, so they sold a rematch clause. Can't blame Hearn for trying to buy one. All blame has to go on Usyk for selling one.

[landotter]

Do you know what would be worse for his client as far as fighting for the unification of all 4 belts? Fighting an opponent, like, oh say a dangerous HW fighter and ending up without a belt or a rematch clause.

Sometimes I cannot follow the bouncing balls of logic these promotors and sanctioning bodies follow. If he wants to see Fury fight for all four titles, he needs to keep his one. Put the freaking rematch clause in there and protect your fighter.

[landotter]

Here is why people get annoyed (and they should be annoyed with Usyk, not Joshua).

Ruiz was a voluntary defense, of course Joshua is going to demand a rematch clause and if Ruiz says no, he just picks a different opponent.

But Usyk was MANDATORY. Which means Usyk had a guaranteed title shot with NO REMATCH CLAUSE and his team didn't think he'd win, so they voluntarily sold a rematch clause to Joshua. So we're stuck with a fight we don't want to see when we could have instead had Fury-Usyk for the undisputed championship.

His team did not think he would win??? Seriously???

Or.... OR.... They not only thought he would win, they realized the value of a rematch with a fighter they were confident they could beat twice with huge finical gain. There was never a time Usyk or his team lacked confidence in his ability to unify. It is only the "experts" who didn't. At worst, he has a huge dollar rematch with a fighter they already beat convincingly, or at best Joshua takes step aside money for an even bigger payday unifications with Fury. Again, it is only some people in the peanut gallery whining about Usyk/Joshua 2. The public and th boxing community are pumped for it. Sure, everyone wants the unification. But everyone wanted it when Wilder and Joshua held all the belts a couple years ago. But every fight with Wilder and Joshua was big regardless. I still think the Whyte fight happens, but it does not matter I will watch whoever it is. I will be glued to Usyk/Joshua 2.

[WBC WBA IBF]

His team did not think he would win??? Seriously???

Correct.

Or.... OR.... They not only thought he would win, they realized the value of a rematch with a fighter they were confident they could beat twice with huge finical gain.

He probably got an extra million for selling the rematch clause and is now stuck making many many millions less for the rematch than he would have made had he not sold the rematch clause.

[Robbie Barrett]

If Whyte wins how much of a clown will Warren look? Rematch clauses are common sense foe the champ.

[REDEEMER]

If Whyte wins how much of a clown will Warren look? Rematch clauses are common sense foe the champ.

That’s the thing though they aren’t worried about rematch clauses because they aren’t trying to make seriously efforts to make the fight happen . They are making bravado statements knowing Whyte won’t take a 5.5 guarantee offer he doesn’t need . Not sure what the 25% point is either because I don’t see how even 10 million equals that ? It has to be sell out and at least 1.5 PPVs. .

[landotter]

Correct.




He probably got an extra million for selling the rematch clause and is now stuck making many many millions less for the rematch than he would have made had he not sold the rematch clause.

dude, just stop. He never thought for one second he was going to lose. Do you know why? Because the man has never lost. He's beaten Brawlers in their home countries, he's beaten technical boxers in their home countries. He has won gold, he's won belts. He's unified a division. He didn't doubt for one second he was going to beat Joshua, any more than he thinks he's going to lose to Joshua in the rematch. He 100% believes he will beat Tyson Fury. I don't know why on Earth you would think such silliness that you do. But you do you. I guess that's what these forms are for.

[WBC WBA IBF]

dude, just stop. He never thought for one second he was going to lose.

Then there would be absolutely no reason to voluntarily sell a rematch clause that would cost you millions and millions of dollars if you won.

[alexjust]

Arum is a promoter, not a manager. He has no fiduciary duty to the fighter. Arum must act in Top Rank's best interest. He hired Lomachenko and Teofimo to fight each other. He has no obligation to look out for Lomachenko's interests over Teofimo's or his own.




Lomachenko is under contract to Arum. If Lomachenko refuses to fight, he sits home with no fight and makes no money. Lomachenko had no leverage to force a rematch clause. It was a unification.

Fiduciary responsibility aside (that's a formality, ultimately), a modern relationship style between a promoter and a fighter is that promoter is a service provider to a fighter and not an employer. Hearn gets it, Arum and a few other "old schools" never will.

[WBC WBA IBF]

Hearn gets it, Arum and a few other "old schools" never will.

Arum built his company from scratch. Hearn inherited his company. Arum has had a 50 year run on top. Let's see how Hearn is doing decades from now. DAZN is destined for failure longterm and Hearn has fully hitched his wagon to DAZN, leaving Sky open for others when Sky is the one that will be around forever. Very risky.