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    #41
    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
    If he loses the rematch with Usyk, Joshua will have to fight his way back into title contention.
    Here is why people get annoyed (and they should be annoyed with Usyk, not Joshua).

    Ruiz was a voluntary defense, of course Joshua is going to demand a rematch clause and if Ruiz says no, he just picks a different opponent.

    But Usyk was MANDATORY. Which means Usyk had a guaranteed title shot with NO REMATCH CLAUSE and his team didn't think he'd win, so they voluntarily sold a rematch clause to Joshua. So we're stuck with a fight we don't want to see when we could have instead had Fury-Usyk for the undisputed championship.

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    • Chrismart
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      #42
      If the fight goes ahead I'd be very surprised if there's no rematch clause.

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        #43
        Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

        Rematch clauses are designed to protect the promoter, not the fighter.

        Arum wanted Teofimo to win. Why the hell would he put a rematch clause in an in house fight?
        I also suspected that much. But he also must act in his client's best interest. He didn't. And also Loma team should have insisted on the rematch clause.

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          #44
          Originally posted by alexjust
          I also suspected that much. But he also must act in his client's best interest. He didn't.
          Arum is a promoter, not a manager. He has no fiduciary duty to the fighter. Arum must act in Top Rank's best interest. He hired Lomachenko and Teofimo to fight each other. He has no obligation to look out for Lomachenko's interests over Teofimo's or his own.


          And also Loma team should have insisted on the rematch clause.
          Lomachenko is under contract to Arum. If Lomachenko refuses to fight, he sits home with no fight and makes no money. Lomachenko had no leverage to force a rematch clause. It was a unification.

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          • JayCho
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            #45
            Originally posted by denium
            Frank talking sense here, Eddie Hearn and Rematchroom are ruining boxing with all these rematch clauses.

            I hope that Frank's plan works out. Have a keep busy fight in March, then beat up Whyte and then fight the winner of Usyk-Joshua for all the marbles.
            Wasn’t Frank promoting Tyson when he fought Wilder 3 times, the 3rd fight wasn’t needed or wanted by the public, but they signed a rematch clause.
            Also Arthur and Yarde have just had a rematch as Warren put in a clause to protect Yarde


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              #46
              Originally posted by JayCho

              Wasn’t Frank promoting Tyson when he fought Wilder 3 times, the 3rd fight wasn’t needed or wanted by the public, but they signed a rematch clause.
              Also Arthur and Yarde have just had a rematch as Warren put in a clause to protect Yarde

              I enjoyed the 3rd fight speak for yourself

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              • JayCho
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                #47
                Originally posted by thack
                Fury , by far the best heavyweight in the world today should be fighting Usyk in March but a ridiculous Hearn rematch clause has put pay to that .Joshua who was beaten hands down gets another undeserved chance when the best heavyweight and the man with the other belts should be in the ring together and Joshua should be made to fight his way up the order.....Hearn is holding up the the best contests as usual to suit his own pocket. If you know boxing you will know this!
                You seem to forget that Fury would most likely be undisputed by now if he didn’t have to rematch Wilder.

                Like the way you put that Hearn is holding up the best fights to suit your own narrative though.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by JayCho
                  Wasn’t Frank promoting Tyson when he fought Wilder 3 times, the 3rd fight wasn’t needed or wanted by the public
                  Fury had to sign a rematch clause in order to get the fight with Wilder.

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                  • JayCho
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Shadoww702

                    I enjoyed the 3rd fight speak for yourself
                    So did I but your missing the point, the poster i was quoting is saying that the Usyk rematch is holding up the undisputed fight but not even acknowledging that the Wilder rematch held up the undisputed fight

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                    • JayCho
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

                      Fury had to sign a rematch clause in order to get the fight with Wilder.
                      Usyk would have had to sign it too to fight for the other belts, otherwise could AJ have just defended the WBO and not put the others on the line?
                      actually asking this as a question because I’m not sure

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