Talk of Canelo vs Joe Smith next!!! I am down with that fight! You?

[-Kev-]

Anyone who has ever fought before knows that will is more important than skill when you're up against someone as good as Canelo. The most important thing is knowing how to deal with adversity. We've never seen Canelo in a dog fight except maybe the 2 GGG fights, but Smith is one of those guys that can take a lot of punishment but fight a full 12 rounds and constantly keep coming at you. He knows how to deal with adversity and Canelo has a history of fighting boxers who are the opposite, people like Kovalev who are mentally very very weak and fold under pressure. He'd be a big favorite over Joe Smith but I'd still give him a lot of credit for going up to 175 and beatng a tough guy like that who keeps coming at you, it would be an impressive win.

Interesting.

What do you think about the following fighters and their experience with adversity: Mayweather, Jacobs, Saunders, GGG, Lara.

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And how would you define adversity in boxing?

[Oracle01]

Once again choosing the weakest champion? Notice a trend? lol

[TernceBudCharlo]

Interesting.

What do you think about the following fighters and their experience with adversity: Mayweather, Jacobs, Saunders, GGG, Lara.

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And how would you define adversity in boxing?

Best example I can think of in recent times is Ward really getting dominated first couple rounds of the Kovalev fight and getting dropped. But hanging in there to pull off the win. Floyd getting roughed up by Maidana and caught clean a few times but making the necessary in fight adjustments to pull off the decision in that first fight. Wilder in his last fight against Fury sort of. Jacobs, maybe getting off the canvas against GGG, but it's not like he was getting pieced up before that and GGG let him off the hook after he dropped him. Saunders I don't know if I've ever seen it, he faded in the Eubank and Lee fight. GGG I don't know if I'd ever seen it, maybe the opposite, he's never shown that willingness to walk through fire, although to his credit his rally rounds 9-12 of the second Canelo fight was impressive and often gets overlooked. That's probably the best GGG example I can think of, to me he was clearly losing that fight but dug pretty deep to take the last 4 rounds on my cards. Impressive rally BUT still didn't show me that he was willing to take the type of risks a Smith would. Lara, obviously the same thing getting off the canvas against Angulo.

But the adversity I'm talking about with Smith is the ability to stay in a fight despite being less skilled, but never for one minute thinking the fight isn't going to go your way. Joe Smith may get his ass beat for 12 rounds but he'll walk through fire for 36 minutes to land that big punch.

You could also say that same about Angulo I guess when Canelo fought him, but the difference is Smith is 20-30lbs bigger, hits a lot harder, takes a punch much better, which is very commendable for Canelo to fight a guy like that.

One other thing on the styles make fights point. Smith isn't gong to be afraid to get hit by Canelo. For an example yes, even though Kovelav was impressive against Eldeider Alvarez the second time around, it was pretty obvious who was more scared of the other's power. But when Smith fought him he didn't care what Alvarez was throwing back at him. That's a tough guy to deal with despite the lesser skill.

[TernceBudCharlo]

Once again choosing the weakest champion? Notice a trend? lol

I'm as big a Canelo critic as anyone, he'd get a lot more credit from me for beating Smith than Kovalev

[Oracle01]

I'm as big a Canelo critic as anyone, he'd get a lot more credit from me for beating Smith than Kovalev

BUT he is still targeting the weakest champion, yet again, its pathetic.

[daggum]

Best example I can think of in recent times is Ward really getting dominated first couple rounds of the Kovalev fight and getting dropped. But hanging in there to pull off the win. Floyd getting roughed up by Maidana and caught clean a few times but making the necessary in fight adjustments to pull off the decision in that first fight. Wilder in his last fight against Fury sort of. Jacobs, maybe getting off the canvas against GGG, but it's not like he was getting pieced up before that and GGG let him off the hook after he dropped him. Saunders I don't know if I've ever seen it, he faded in the Eubank and Lee fight. GGG I don't know if I'd ever seen it, maybe the opposite, he's never shown that willingness to walk through fire, although to his credit his rally rounds 9-12 of the second Canelo fight was impressive and often gets overlooked. That's probably the best GGG example I can think of, to me he was clearly losing that fight but dug pretty deep to take the last 4 rounds on my cards. Impressive rally BUT still didn't show me that he was willing to take the type of risks a Smith would. Lara, obviously the same thing getting off the canvas against Angulo.

But the adversity I'm talking about with Smith is the ability to stay in a fight despite being less skilled, but never for one minute thinking the fight isn't going to go your way. Joe Smith may get his ass beat for 12 rounds but he'll walk through fire for 36 minutes to land that big punch.

You could also say that same about Angulo I guess when Canelo fought him, but the difference is Smith is 20-30lbs bigger, hits a lot harder, takes a punch much better, which is very commendable for Canelo to fight a guy like that.

One other thing on the styles make fights point. Smith isn't gong to be afraid to get hit by Canelo. For an example yes, even though Kovelav was impressive against Eldeider Alvarez the second time around, it was pretty obvious who was more scared of the other's power. But when Smith fought him he didn't care what Alvarez was throwing back at him. That's a tough guy to deal with despite the lesser skill.

haning in there to pull of the robbery

[paulf]

That will sell a lot of PPVs if true. Fun little fight.

[MulaKO]

After all this and that , I’d say Beterbiev in 2025
Makes perfect sense; he’ll be older , shopworn and ready for his first loss
Ahhhh , Mayweather taught you well CaneloSon

[SunDiego-]

I still believe Canelo is going to end up fighting Dirrell for a tuneup in May and Benavidez at the end of the year. Maybe after that if Charlo still doesn’t go up to 168 Canelo is not going to wait for him and he’ll end up going to 175 in 2023 to fight those guys. But if he chooses to go to 175 a fight with Smith as a tuneup is not a bad fight for a comeback in May

[hhh1200]

What's the catch? He fought old Kovalev and had to drain him with 2 rehydration clauses. You are telling me he is going to fight these guys straight up, no tricks or PEDs? Let's put this in perspective. Thomas Hearns could spark guys under 160 with one punch but fighters above 160 could absorb his power. You have a 5.7, flat-footed fighter who can't stop Angulo and Chavez Jr but he can take on the bigger men all of a sudden. This has to be the most fraudulent generation of boxing ever. What's next, people are going to try and put this clown in the same sentence with Ali>