Talk of Canelo vs Joe Smith next!!! I am down with that fight! You?

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  • TernceBudCharlo
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    #11
    Originally posted by BangEM
    Nah.

    I’d rather see Joe Smith and Yarde.

    Canelo should fight Bivol or Mukabu.

    Joe Smith vs Yarde at the o2 pls!
    Joe Smith is a much better opponent than Makabu

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      #12
      Anyone who has ever fought before knows that will is more important than skill when you're up against someone as good as Canelo. The most important thing is knowing how to deal with adversity. We've never seen Canelo in a dog fight except maybe the 2 GGG fights, but Smith is one of those guys that can take a lot of punishment but fight a full 12 rounds and constantly keep coming at you. He knows how to deal with adversity and Canelo has a history of fighting boxers who are the opposite, people like Kovalev who are mentally very very weak and fold under pressure. He'd be a big favorite over Joe Smith but I'd still give him a lot of credit for going up to 175 and beatng a tough guy like that who keeps coming at you, it would be an impressive win.

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      • just the facts
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        #13
        If Canelo is willing to fight a Top Rank lt heavy, why not Beterbiev?

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        • PBR Streetgang
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          #14
          Interesting. While I favor Smith over Johnson, it's not a guarantee Joe wins that one.

          Smith is limited (Vlasov arguably outboxed him and Bivol definitely did) but he can crack hard, he's aggressive and he is durable. I think the fight would be violent but I see Canelo prevailing.

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            #15
            Canelo fighting for the most important championship at 200 pounds interests me a lot more than him fighting for the least important championship at 175 pounds. If Don King is being a pain in the ass though, I'd totally understand Canelo wanting to shift his plans.

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            • sicko
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              #16
              ZERO interest and money for that Mukabu fight most likely but yeah this what the fans want right him at 175 but people will complain of him picking the weakest Champion at 175 first and I can understand that because Joe is the weakest Champion but as long as Beterbiev or Bivol is next I don't mind it at all, in fact I prefer it over the Mukabu fight
              Last edited by sicko; 12-29-2021, 12:23 AM.

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              • -Kev-
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                #17
                21:51, Arum begins answering Canelo vs Beterbiev/Smith Jr questions.

                "I think they might want to fight Joe Smith Jr next and then go to Beterbiev to unify the titles. They sort of hinted at that. That’s why this fight on January 15th between Joe Smith Jr. and Callum Johnson is so important,” said Arum.”
                I think it would happen. And I know his critics won't like it. They expect Canelo to fight Beterbiev tomorrow. But I called, Canelo will want to pick a title and face a top 3 fighter like Smith before stepping in there with the best of the division, Artur Beterbiev. I think it's the best route. But he does have to fight Beterbiev in 2022 though. He can't fight Joe Smith Jr and then not fight Beterbiev or Bivol in 2022.

                But yeah, I do think Joe Smith Jr, The Ring #3 at 175 and WBO champ, would be a good fight before Beterbiev. Of course, if he even plans on fighting Beterbiev.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by just the facts
                  If Canelo is willing to fight a Top Rank lt heavy, why not Beterbiev?
                  Top Rank vs Canelo is not a thing. TR vs GBP and PBC is a thing. Canelo has no issues fighting a TR, PBC, or Matchroom fighter. He's been on DAZN and Showtime in 2021. He would fight on ESPN PPV in partnership with TR.

                  Arum explains in an interview published today, that Canelo wants Joe Smith Jr and then Beterbiev next. It's common sense why. Well I hope it's common sense.

                  If Canelo was willing to fight Trout at 154, and Mayweather Jr at 152lbs, why not Lara at 154?

                  If Canelo was willing to fight Chavez Jr at 164lbs, why not fight GGG at 160?

                  If Canelo was willing to fight GGG twice, at 160, why not Jacobs at 160?

                  If Canelo was willing to fight Rocky Fielding at 168lbs, why not Callum Smith at 168?

                  If Canelo is willing to fight Makabu at Cruiserweight, why not Mairis Briedis at Cruiserweight?

                  If Canelo is willing to fight Oleksandr Usyk at Heavyweight, why not Tyson Fury?

                  The last one is an exaggeration, but on par with Canelo critics' rhetorical questions.

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                  • TernceBudCharlo
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                    #19
                    I'd have no problems with him winning a belt against Smith at 175 then going back to 168 to face Benavidez, Andrade, or Charlo. These are all great fights for Canelo. I'm as big a Canelo critic as there is, but he doesn't need Beterbiev for his legacy, people hate on the guy but look, Beterbiev is a very different animal, he's a lot more skilled than guys give him credit for, I'd even say he's more skilled than BJS, Plant, and Saunders, the difference is that he's much bigger, hits like a mule, cuts off the ring brilliantly, and is very heavy handed. Plus he'd have a huge size advantage over Canelo. That's a lot to ask for for Canelo and doesn't need Beterbiev for his legacy but more power to him if he actually takes that fight. I'd have no problems with him gong back down to 168 though for the other good fights. As for me I never understood why GGG was so high on the p4p list but Artur Beterbiev is not, Gvozdyk win was much better than anything GGG ever did.
                    Last edited by TernceBudCharlo; 12-29-2021, 12:59 AM.

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                    • TernceBudCharlo
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by -Kev-

                      Top Rank vs Canelo is not a thing. TR vs GBP and PBC is a thing. Canelo has no issues fighting a TR, PBC, or Matchroom fighter. He's been on DAZN and Showtime in 2021. He would fight on ESPN PPV in partnership with TR.
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                      Canelo has a very good relationship with Bob Arum, I seen them together a lot.

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