Is Eddie Hearn a con artist or is he incompetent?

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  • jmrf4435
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    #61
    lol

    what boxing promoter is not? It is their job

    he's putting on better fights than the other cons,, though

    and more fights

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      #62
      Originally posted by jmrf4435
      what boxing promoter is not? It is their job
      Sure, but it's also his job to know the rules and put his fighters in the best position to win and keep world titles and he's done a horrible job of that.

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        #63
        Originally posted by bballchump11

        Yeah it's quite sad. AJ was down with the offer too, but Hearn's incompetent ass screwed that up. AJ has really fallen from grace. In fact I think Hearn could have even secured Fury with Matchroom, but he bungled that as well.
        It's Hearn's fault ?

        He picked what should have been two soft fights for AJ - (we found that Ruiz was a one-off and I suspect everyone is going to be disappointed in Usyk as well) but the fighter has to win - Hearn was getting AJ nice paydays for what was suspose to be a 'bum of the month' run, while waiting for Fury-Wilder to play out, but I repeat myself, the fault lies with AJ, he wasn't suspose to lose these fights.

        Think - AJ holds up his end and wins the two fights, how is he positioned? Suddenly it looks like Hearn did a great job.

        AJ has to win! He blew it, not Hearn.

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          #64
          Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

          Even if that's true, it's still less than he would have made fighting a trilogy with Wilder instead of letting Fury fight a trilogy with Wilder.




          If you're a child that has been allowed on the internet without parental supervision, it's best if you just log off. A civilized intelligent adult wouldn't resort to name calling like that. Best of luck.
          And yet far more money than Wilder made in his trilogy with Fury. One in which he was brutally beaten twice,which more than likely will have sent him into retirement. So Wilder took far less money only to get savagely KTFO twice....

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            #65
            Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

            Literally just made a defence in October.

            You’re not even worth responding to, if you think Fury and Wilder are “bums” you’re clearly being delusional because of your agenda.

            Another salty AJ fan who can’t accept that Fury has PROVEN himself the clear #1 in the division.
            He defended it against a guy he stopped and dominated inside 7 rounds it's hardly a worthy defence

            Running things back against an opponant you dominated is far from a legit defence

            I think it's you that has the agenda

            You don't know shiet about baxing

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              #66
              Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

              There's one great way to cut through all the media hype. Look at the Boxrec ratings. Media hype, paper titles, biased fanboys, all mean nothing when it comes to the computers analyzing every win and loss everyone has had.

              And Wilder reached #1 in Boxrec. So no, it wasn't media hype. He may have peaked now, but he was the baddest man on the planet at one point.
              Baddest man on the planet in a mediocre division left stagnant with the departure of wladimir and fury

              Wilder beat a bunch of tomato cans

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              • QueensburyRules
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                #67
                Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

                Even if that's true, it's still less than he would have made fighting a trilogy with Wilder instead of letting Fury fight a trilogy with Wilder.




                If you're a child that has been allowed on the internet without parental supervision, it's best if you just log off. A civilized intelligent adult wouldn't resort to name calling like that. Best of luck.
                - - Even if U was ******er than just being a punch dummy, U could never figure that AJ wiped out the Haymon Heavywt stables save for Dummy Deyonce that Uncle Al set up for weak as a newborn kitty Fury coming off a 3 yr drug bender and suspension.

                Even Fwanky Warren had to flee the UK because they couldn't compete with AJ and Hearn...you're welcome...

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

                  Sure, but it's also his job to know the rules and put his fighters in the best position to win and keep world titles and he's done a horrible job of that.
                  You are always on here talking about negotiations and purses like you are a guy in the room with them while they negotiate.

                  At least Hearn is doing less of the simmering bulllss**** and trying to give consistent good fights.

                  Maybe just worry more about what goes on inside the ring?

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                    In a recent interview, Bob Arum brought up the fact that Eddie Hearn didn't bother to attend the WBC convention this year and wasn't there to lobby on behalf of Dillian Whyte when the purse split for Fury-Whyte was being debated.

                    For the last four years, Hearn's public statements about the WBC rules, how you become mandatory, the rights of a silver champion, the rights of an interim champion, how final eliminators work, etc have been so consistently wrong that I've always just assumed Hearn is a con artist trying to fool the public.

                    But Arum's interview made me think about the possibility that Hearn is just incompetent and doesn't understand sanctioning body rules and how they operate. How could he have bungled Whyte's situation over and over for so long and then not even have anyone at the WBC convention to plead Whyte's case?

                    Most major promoters have people on the payroll whose job it is to study sanctioning body rules for any quirks that can be used to their advantage. PBC's promoters have pulled off all sorts of successful rules maneuvers that have left Hearn confused and upset. Is Hearn just incompetent at this aspect of his job? When he claims WBC interim champions are entitled to 45% of a purse bid, is it possible he's really just not aware that hasn't been the rule in over a decade? When he claims that being silver champion makes you the mandatory, is it possible he's really just not aware that the silver title has never made you mandatory?

                    Serious question. Have I been giving Hearn too much credit the last few years and the truth is that he just has no idea what he's doing?
                    Bob Arum is boxing's biggest liar, rivalled only by that corrupt scumbag Sulaiman.

                    Arum, on multiple occasions, stated that he was 100% certain that the arbitrator's ruling on the Wilder trilogy rematch clause would not and could not prevent Fury from accepting Eddie Hearn's deal to unify with AJ in SA, knowing all the time that unless he formally terminated the agreement - which he had no intention of doing - Fury would still be bound by it.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Stuntman Mike

                      He defended it against a guy he stopped and dominated inside 7 rounds it's hardly a worthy defence

                      Running things back against an opponant you dominated is far from a legit defence

                      I think it's you that has the agenda

                      You don't know shiet about baxing
                      Wilder was the #3 ranked HW in the world you fool.

                      Matchroom FC m***…

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