Is Eddie Hearn a con artist or is he incompetent?

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In a recent interview, Bob Arum brought up the fact that Eddie Hearn didn't bother to attend the WBC convention this year and wasn't there to lobby on behalf of Dillian Whyte when the purse split for Fury-Whyte was being debated.

For the last four years, Hearn's public statements about the WBC rules, how you become mandatory, the rights of a silver champion, the rights of an interim champion, how final eliminators work, etc have been so consistently wrong that I've always just assumed Hearn is a con artist trying to fool the public.

But Arum's interview made me think about the possibility that Hearn is just incompetent and doesn't understand sanctioning body rules and how they operate. How could he have bungled Whyte's situation over and over for so long and then not even have anyone at the WBC convention to plead Whyte's case?

Most major promoters have people on the payroll whose job it is to study sanctioning body rules for any quirks that can be used to their advantage. PBC's promoters have pulled off all sorts of successful rules maneuvers that have left Hearn confused and upset. Is Hearn just incompetent at this aspect of his job? When he claims WBC interim champions are entitled to 45% of a purse bid, is it possible he's really just not aware that hasn't been the rule in over a decade? When he claims that being silver champion makes you the mandatory, is it possible he's really just not aware that the silver title has never made you mandatory?

Serious question. Have I been giving Hearn too much credit the last few years and the truth is that he just has no idea what he's doing?

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Honestly both, Hearn tries his best to con the public and especially the non-boxing fans. The problem is he constantly leaves himself exposed by making contradictory statements. This leads me to believe he doesn’t truly understand the sport like an Arum or a Haymon does.

Look how he handled the Fury-AJ situation, that fight was never happening yet he wasted 6 months promising the world the fight was on, done, happening etc.

Overpromise, under-deliver then scramble to justify his shortcomings. Hearn does this time and time again. It amazes me how people don’t see through this charlatan.

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Honestly both, Hearn tries his best to con the public and especially the non-boxing fans. The problem is he constantly leaves himself exposed by making contradictory statements. This leads me to believe he doesn’t truly understand the sport like an Arum or a Haymon does.

Look how he handled the Fury-AJ situation, that fight was never happening yet he wasted 6 months promising the world the fight was on, done, happening etc.

Overpromise, under-deliver then scramble to justify his shortcomings. Hearn does this time and time again. It amazes me how people don’t see through this charlatan.

Remember how badly he handled the potential Joshua-Wilder fight as well.

With guys like Haymon and Arum, you have to be respectful even if they are hard work, because they've been in this game for a long time

Hearn non-stop trolled Wilder and his team for months and months, and now he's crying that PBC refuse to work with him? What the f*** does he expect?

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Remember how badly he handled the potential Joshua-Wilder fight as well.

With guys like Haymon and Arum, you have to be respectful even if they are hard work, because they've been in this game for a long time

Hearn non-stop trolled Wilder and his team for months and months, and now he's crying that PBC refuse to work with him? What the f*** does he expect?

Yeah his lack of professionalism completely ruined that fight. You’re trying to make a multi-million dollar super fight and you’re referring to the guy you’re negotiating with as “Shirley Winkle”. What the f*** was he doing? That was so ****** man.

I say this all the time, Hearn is the main reason AJ has never had the super fights with Fury or Wilder. There were 3 top HW’s for this last 5 or 6 years, two have fought three times, the other has fought neither. It’s clear who the problem is/was during negotiations.

[famicommander]

He's a boxing promoter.

So, both.

Obviously.

[Earl-Hickey]

Hearn just seems like the kind of guy who finds it hard to just go along to get along.

It's immaturity that you often find with people younger than he is, where they just don't think before they open their mouth.

Arum, warren and Haymon are all crooks, they are all liars, so is hearn but where those guys can find a way to all get along hearn can't.

I do find it interesting that Hearn manages to maintain good relationships with younger promoters like Saurland and David Higgins, he mentioned once he sent his dad to talk to shelly finkle because he "can't deal with old guys" or something.

He doesn't get on with Oscar but then again nobody does.

I don't think you can really call hearn incompetent though, he's managed matchroom exceptionally well, financially his business has always been profitable, most of the other promoters have several bankruptcies in their past, he also maintains excellent fighter relations and is never in court battles over payments etc like many of the others.

Hearn has his faults but he's a good businessman.

[QueensburyRules]

In a recent interview, Bob Arum brought up the fact that Eddie Hearn didn't bother to attend the WBC convention this year and wasn't there to lobby on behalf of Dillian Whyte when the purse split for Fury-Whyte was being debated.

For the last four years, Hearn's public statements about the WBC rules, how you become mandatory, the rights of a silver champion, the rights of an interim champion, how final eliminators work, etc have been so consistently wrong that I've always just assumed Hearn is a con artist trying to fool the public.

But Arum's interview made me think about the possibility that Hearn is just incompetent and doesn't understand sanctioning body rules and how they operate. How could he have bungled Whyte's situation over and over for so long and then not even have anyone at the WBC convention to plead Whyte's case?

Most major promoters have people on the payroll whose job it is to study sanctioning body rules for any quirks that can be used to their advantage. PBC's promoters have pulled off all sorts of successful rules maneuvers that have left Hearn confused and upset. Is Hearn just incompetent at this aspect of his job? When he claims WBC interim champions are entitled to 45% of a purse bid, is it possible he's really just not aware that hasn't been the rule in over a decade? When he claims that being silver champion makes you the mandatory, is it possible he's really just not aware that the silver title has never made you mandatory?

Serious question. Have I been giving Hearn too much credit the last few years and the truth is that he just has no idea what he's doing?

- - Nah, Fast Eddie knew eventually an all knowing boxing expert as U demonstrate would knock him to the back of the queue to start all over again much wiser wif the wisdom U have provided

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In a recent interview, Bob Arum brought up the fact that Eddie Hearn didn't bother to attend the WBC convention this year and wasn't there to lobby on behalf of Dillian Whyte when the purse split for Fury-Whyte was being debated.

For the last four years, Hearn's public statements about the WBC rules, how you become mandatory, the rights of a silver champion, the rights of an interim champion, how final eliminators work, etc have been so consistently wrong that I've always just assumed Hearn is a con artist trying to fool the public.

But Arum's interview made me think about the possibility that Hearn is just incompetent and doesn't understand sanctioning body rules and how they operate. How could he have bungled Whyte's situation over and over for so long and then not even have anyone at the WBC convention to plead Whyte's case?

Most major promoters have people on the payroll whose job it is to study sanctioning body rules for any quirks that can be used to their advantage. PBC's promoters have pulled off all sorts of successful rules maneuvers that have left Hearn confused and upset. Is Hearn just incompetent at this aspect of his job? When he claims WBC interim champions are entitled to 45% of a purse bid, is it possible he's really just not aware that hasn't been the rule in over a decade? When he claims that being silver champion makes you the mandatory, is it possible he's really just not aware that the silver title has never made you mandatory?

Serious question. Have I been giving Hearn too much credit the last few years and the truth is that he just has no idea what he's doing?

Hearn’s 45% claim is because he says Whyte has been waiting years as mandatory and had the interim title for so long…

Well, no he hasn’t. He lost his position and that title when he got flattened by Povetkin. He may have won it back in the rematch but that means it starts again.

Not sure why Hearn is failing to acknowledge that.

Well really he’s a promoter trying to get more for his fighter but let’s be real, if Whyte was the WBC champ and his last purse was about 30x higher than his mandatory challengers last purse, Eddie wouldn’t be willing to give them 45%

Usyk apparently only got around 25% v AJ and even that was because he got a few more % for agreeing to a rematch clause in a mandatory fight.

[PBR Streetgang]

There are few things that I trust less than a boxing promoter, one of those things being boxing sanctioning bodies.

As to Hearn, I don't think he's incompetent. A con artist? Probably no more or no less than the other promoters. Hearns issue is that he's constantly flapping his gums to remind you of that fact.

[Earl-Hickey]

Hearn’s 45% claim is because he says Whyte has been waiting years as mandatory and had the interim title for so long…

Well, no he hasn’t. He lost his position and that title when he got flattened by Povetkin. He may have won it back in the rematch but that means it starts again.

Not sure why Hearn is failing to acknowledge that.

Well really he’s a promoter trying to get more for his fighter but let’s be real, if Whyte was the WBC champ and his last purse was about 30x higher than his mandatory challengers last purse, Eddie wouldn’t be willing to give them 45%

Usyk apparently only got around 25% v AJ and even that was because he got a few more % for agreeing to a rematch clause in a mandatory fight.

Where did you get the 30x figure from?

From what I saw from a quick search Whyte was guaranteed 4 mil for Povetkin 2 and Fury 5 mil for Wilder 3

I have no doubt that Fury got more than 5 mil with the extras but 30x more than Whyte 4 mil? I don't think Fury got 120 mil for Wilder 3 somehow lol.