Is Eddie Hearn a con artist or is he incompetent?

[IronDanHamza]

Yeah his lack of professionalism completely ruined that fight. You’re trying to make a multi-million dollar super fight and you’re referring to the guy you’re negotiating with as “Shirley Winkle”. What the f*** was he doing? That was so ****** man.

I say this all the time, Hearn is the main reason AJ has never had the super fights with Fury or Wilder. There were 3 top HW’s for this last 5 or 6 years, two have fought three times, the other has fought neither. It’s clear who the problem is/was during negotiations.

The Shirley Winkle stuff was hilarious to be honest But your point stands, doesn't help especially with that age group.

It's funny because Hearn doesn't react too well when the shoes on the other foot.

[DaNeutral.]

In a recent interview, Bob Arum brought up the fact that Eddie Hearn didn't bother to attend the WBC convention this year and wasn't there to lobby on behalf of Dillian Whyte when the purse split for Fury-Whyte was being debated.

For the last four years, Hearn's public statements about the WBC rules, how you become mandatory, the rights of a silver champion, the rights of an interim champion, how final eliminators work, etc have been so consistently wrong that I've always just assumed Hearn is a con artist trying to fool the public.

But Arum's interview made me think about the possibility that Hearn is just incompetent and doesn't understand sanctioning body rules and how they operate. How could he have bungled Whyte's situation over and over for so long and then not even have anyone at the WBC convention to plead Whyte's case?

Most major promoters have people on the payroll whose job it is to study sanctioning body rules for any quirks that can be used to their advantage. PBC's promoters have pulled off all sorts of successful rules maneuvers that have left Hearn confused and upset. Is Hearn just incompetent at this aspect of his job? When he claims WBC interim champions are entitled to 45% of a purse bid, is it possible he's really just not aware that hasn't been the rule in over a decade? When he claims that being silver champion makes you the mandatory, is it possible he's really just not aware that the silver title has never made you mandatory?

Serious question. Have I been giving Hearn too much credit the last few years and the truth is that he just has no idea what he's doing?

That's a big question, all I know is is that thread starter is a proven liar and a PBC shill.

[Noelanthony]

In a recent interview, Bob Arum brought up the fact that Eddie Hearn didn't bother to attend the WBC convention this year and wasn't there to lobby on behalf of Dillian Whyte when the purse split for Fury-Whyte was being debated.

For the last four years, Hearn's public statements about the WBC rules, how you become mandatory, the rights of a silver champion, the rights of an interim champion, how final eliminators work, etc have been so consistently wrong that I've always just assumed Hearn is a con artist trying to fool the public.

But Arum's interview made me think about the possibility that Hearn is just incompetent and doesn't understand sanctioning body rules and how they operate. How could he have bungled Whyte's situation over and over for so long and then not even have anyone at the WBC convention to plead Whyte's case?

Most major promoters have people on the payroll whose job it is to study sanctioning body rules for any quirks that can be used to their advantage. PBC's promoters have pulled off all sorts of successful rules maneuvers that have left Hearn confused and upset. Is Hearn just incompetent at this aspect of his job? When he claims WBC interim champions are entitled to 45% of a purse bid, is it possible he's really just not aware that hasn't been the rule in over a decade? When he claims that being silver champion makes you the mandatory, is it possible he's really just not aware that the silver title has never made you mandatory?

Serious question. Have I been giving Hearn too much credit the last few years and the truth is that he just has no idea what he's doing?

could very well be but you said that Barry Hearn makes all the decisions anyway

[QueensburyRules]

Sweet Caroline…

Fury vs Wilder is the biggest and best HW trilogy in f***ing decades.

You’re an idiot. Stop with the agenda driven BS.

- - Yessss, The Soft Lad Society of Soft Lads, TSLSSL, has woken...

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Biggest and best since the last heavyweight trilogy

As an actual fight in itself it's two giant oafs with little skill

Wilders a bum and fury a bum aswell

Fury is a two time lineal champion, the #1 ranked HW in the world and has won every relevant title at the weight class.

Wilder was WBC champ for 5 years, made 10 defences and has only ever lost to the best HW in the world.

Both “bums” though according to this idiot.

Get a life man, this agenda driven nonsense is just embarrassing.

[Inspired]

The shirley winkle stuff only came after the fake 50m email offer when winkle decided to once again call a press conference to 'accept' the revised (but real) $15m offer.


So it was justified because by this stage eddie had been in NYC promoting danny jacobs and openly saying he wants to meet with haymon or finkle. Neither one wanted to meet him.

As for incompetence, whyte has earned a lot whilst this saga has actually given him constant attention. That is brilliant promotion.

as for the rest, actually weve been over this. Stiverne, brezeale, ortiz didnt do a thing and they were given the mandatory shot.

You are a moron who derped on about 'final eliminator'. Whyte was offered the final eliminator to a 'second mandatory' spot...that means it was not a final eliminator but a 'second final eliminator' which makes no sense.

Wbc have proven they do not give an eff with the franchise belt. Theyve proven they side with wilder by creating a whole new division just for him. Theyve since lied about the lightweight undisputed.
Blame eddie for wbc not going to their convention lol.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

The Shirley Winkle stuff was hilarious to be honest But your point stands, doesn't help especially with that age group.

It's funny because Hearn doesn't react too well when the shoes on the other foot.

Yeah I saw the funny side myself, but it was one of them were you’re laughing at Hearn rather than laughing with him. It was just so daft, he went full David Brent on that one.

[Willie Pep 229]

In a recent interview, Bob Arum brought up the fact that Eddie Hearn didn't bother to attend the WBC convention this year and wasn't there to lobby on behalf of Dillian Whyte when the purse split for Fury-Whyte was being debated.

For the last four years, Hearn's public statements about the WBC rules, how you become mandatory, the rights of a silver champion, the rights of an interim champion, how final eliminators work, etc have been so consistently wrong that I've always just assumed Hearn is a con artist trying to fool the public.

But Arum's interview made me think about the possibility that Hearn is just incompetent and doesn't understand sanctioning body rules and how they operate. How could he have bungled Whyte's situation over and over for so long and then not even have anyone at the WBC convention to plead Whyte's case?

Most major promoters have people on the payroll whose job it is to study sanctioning body rules for any quirks that can be used to their advantage. PBC's promoters have pulled off all sorts of successful rules maneuvers that have left Hearn confused and upset. Is Hearn just incompetent at this aspect of his job? When he claims WBC interim champions are entitled to 45% of a purse bid, is it possible he's really just not aware that hasn't been the rule in over a decade? When he claims that being silver champion makes you the mandatory, is it possible he's really just not aware that the silver title has never made you mandatory?

Serious question. Have I been giving Hearn too much credit the last few years and the truth is that he just has no idea what he's doing?

I can't speak particularly about Hearn but if a promoter does things as you suggest, attend WBC conventions and study scantioning bodies rules he is then most likely going to find himself negotiating in their ballpark (they have all the advantages going in).

But if a promoter refuses to be schooled in their practices he approaches those negotiations free from those susposed (predetermined) rules/protocols/traditions.

He makes the WBC have to fight for each advantage fresh by refusing to recognize them before hand, by either feigning ignorance or maybe actually being ignorant.

I am not sure I call him a con artist; in contrast I do see Bob Arum being at some level the WBC's b itch.

Maybe (MAYBE) Hearn is just keeping himself independent via that ignorance.

P.S. Sorry I should add, it's not like the WBC won't dump its own rules if there is enough money on the table, they will. So why let them set the agenda via a convention, I wouldn't go either.

[LeOoze]

Sweet Caroline…

Fury vs Wilder is the biggest and best HW trilogy in f***ing decades.

You’re an idiot. Stop with the agenda driven BS.

It was a pointless trilogy...should've been done after I

best HW trilogy in decades sounds good until you realize...how common are HW trilogies? if i gotta think about the one before fury/wilder first comes to mind is bowe/holyfield...and this is NOWHERE near as good

[IronDanHamza]

Yeah I saw the funny side myself, but it was one of them were you’re laughing at Hearn rather than laughing with him. It was just so daft, he went full David Brent on that one.

David Brent is my favourite mate so that's probably why

It's funny because Hearn tries to act as if he doesn't take himself seriously when in reality it's the total opposite.