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  • Ricardi
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    TruGeordie on talent in boxing

    Was watching TruGeordie and Bisping talk about Jake-Woodley fight . Somewhere in the video TruGeordie mentioned how he watched the Chisora-Parker card and that he was unimpressed that those two were supposedly top 10 fighters at Heavyweight.

    Stated that in an UFC card normally throughout the entire card is high-level guys . Boxing lacks that and that's why Jake Paul can capitalized on it . According to him the standards in boxing is lower then in MMA . Therefore easier for Jake to thrive

    You guys think there's any truth to that? Or does he just not know the sport in and out. I for one think there is some truth to it but at the same time he's highly overrating MMA fighter's I've seen top 10 Heavyweights fight in UFC and was highly unimpressed myself.

    I do think theres some truth to the depth of talent in MMA tho . Mostly cause the mid level guys in MMA can actually make a living in the sport and dedicate time to honing their skills . Rather then work a Full-time job like many if not all mid=level boxers do .
    Last edited by Ricardi; 12-22-2021, 01:57 PM.
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    The HW division in MMA has been ****ing awful for years outside of a handful of fighters. Gane/Ngannou is a killer match up between two monsters but the division drops off really fast. Say what you will about current HW boxing but the depth is far, far better. The 3rd and 4th tier is guys like Del Boy, Helenius, Martin, Bakole, Hughie, Takam et al. The 3rd and 4th tier of HW MMA is...**** I dont even know tbh, but its not good.

    As far as undercard quality goes, its apples to oranges. The UFC markets itself as the NFL of MMA, its supposed to have the cream of the crop of the talent pool on its roster. This is not entirely true in practice, but its mostly true. Boxing doesnt have this in comparison, its fragmented with the top talent spread out everywhere. Theres no real hierarchy of promotions and they pretty much all have lazy undercards.

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    • BangEM
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      Why do people listen to this fat cunnnt? He looks like he stinks!

      If anything, Jake Paul just keeps exposing MMA/UFC for the trash it’s. The fighter are meant to be all rounders and for a complete novice to keep putting them to sleep, it shows how terrible the product is.

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        A boxing and UFC card payout is entirely different . It’s also subjective if you think Parker is a top 10 fighter I still don’t he ranks just outside it for me . There’s way more competitive matches in MMA in general because losses are not the end of the world in that sport so they get matched more frequently against top guy who also have lost or won it’s less posturing and negotiating going on .

        Chisora did less while Parker did more in this one , you saw the end result but you, watch fights to see competitive ones and that’s what you got not sure there’s much to complain about if you follow boxing .If you are hosting a you tube channel and that fights on it would be bizarre to have detractor like attitude toward it ,wouldn’t make much sense . There was more skill in that one then the Wilder vs Fury one we just saw so it’s just selective memory talking about skills because two fighters make a fight .
        Last edited by REDEEMER; 12-22-2021, 01:48 PM.

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          #5
          Originally posted by BangEM

          If anything, Jake Paul just keeps exposing MMA/UFC for the trash it’s. The fighter are meant to be all rounders and for a complete novice to keep putting them to sleep, it shows how terrible the product is.
          Hes trained exclusively boxing for 3 years while having access to high level coaching and resources, and is then hand picking older, smaller fighters who he thinks he can deal with stylistically, and fighting them under rules that ban 75% of their skillset.

          You really think he couldnt train wrestling/jiu jitsu/muay thai etc with top coaches for 3 years and beat some 40 year old smaller boxer in MMA? he could probably do that right now actually, his brother definitely could.

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            #6
            Originally posted by TMLT87
            The HW division in MMA has been ****ing awful for years outside of a handful of fighters. Gane/Ngannou is a killer match up between two monsters but the division drops off really fast. Say what you will about current HW boxing but the depth is far, far better. The 3rd and 4th tier is guys like Del Boy, Helenius, Martin, Bakole, Hughie, Takam et al. The 3rd and 4th tier of HW MMA is...**** I dont even know tbh, but its not good.

            As far as undercard quality goes, its apples to oranges. The UFC markets itself as the NFL of MMA, its supposed to have the cream of the crop of the talent pool on its roster. This is not entirely true in practice, but its mostly true. Boxing doesnt have this in comparison, its fragmented with the top talent spread out everywhere. Theres no real hierarchy of promotions and they pretty much all have lazy undercards.
            Completely agree not to mention all the divisions in boxing spreads the top talent even further . Also I think to him Chisora/Parker etc looked un athletic/talented etc. but put any of those MMA Heavyweights in a boxing ring and they'd look even worse.

            Boxers don't waste movements for the most part as MMA fighters do . Less is more in boxing all that jumping etc just wasted energy
            Last edited by Ricardi; 12-22-2021, 02:40 PM.

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              The heavyweights have been awful for decades now, outside of the few elite in each era.

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                Who the f*** is this guy? He a YouTuber or something?

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Ricardi
                  Was watching TruGeordie and Bisping talk about Jake-Woodley fight . Somewhere in the video TruGeordie mentioned how he watched the Chisora-Parker card and that he was unimpressed that those two were supposedly top 10 fighters at Heavyweight.

                  Stated that in an UFC card normally throughout the entire card is high-level guys . Boxing lacks that and that's why Jake Paul can capitalized on it . According to him the standards in boxing is lower then in MMA . Therefore easier for Jake to thrive

                  You guys think there's any truth to that? Or does he just not know the sport in and out. I for one think there is some truth to it but at the same time he's highly overrating MMA fighter's I've seen top 10 Heavyweights fight in UFC and was highly unimpressed myself.

                  I do think theres some truth to the depth of talent in MMA tho . Mostly cause the mid level guys in MMA can actually make a living in the sport and dedicate time to honing their skills . Rather then work a Full-time job like many if not all mid=level boxers do .
                  Which boxer did Paul beat to assume that??? He beat an UFC guy, that is the opposite of what it means. UFC lacks boxing skills so Paul can capitalize on it.

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                    #10
                    Chisora def isnt a top 10. Parker is, but I can name over 20 HWs right now who would beat him.
                    in no particular order incase some of you guys go on the rag over this.

                    Usyk, Tyson Fury, AJ, Joyce, Whyte, Ruiz, Wilder, Dubois, Hrgovic, Parker, Michael Hunter, Hughie Fury, Bakole, Kabayel, Pulev, Ortiz, Gassiev, Tony Yoka, Jalolov, Makhmudov, and Frank Sanchez.


                    As for Jake Paul. All he's proven is that he can put 2 former mma champions to sleep.


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