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  • #31
    Bernard Hopkins and Andre Ward also intentionally headbutted opponents but it was called "veteran tactics" when they did it.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Citizen Koba View Post
      Ha yeah pretty sure Browne knew what he was doing. Before they release after the clash you actually see him lean into the cut and rub his head back across it. It's brief but pretty clearly deliberate.



      Rubs his head in at about 18:52

      That said I've watched the Jack vs Browne headclash several times and that one does look accidental.
      What piece of shyte that BRowne. What makes it worse that the stoppage was an anti-climax since that quitter took a knee. I'm glad Beterbiev took his manhood.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Kannabis Kid View Post
        Yeah they need to start pushing that more I hate it when fights get cut short due to headbutts it seems to happen at least a couple times a year and ends up ruining some really good match ups.
        There was a bunch of that in the olympics this year. What a rough way to lose an olympic match.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by BustedKnuckles View Post

          There was a bunch of that in the olympics this year. What a rough way to lose an olympic match.
          Yeah you're right there was a lot of headbutts in the Olympics and it caused a lot of fighters being at a disadvantage or not being able to continue.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by BustedKnuckles View Post

            I'm gonna defer to his experience and assume it was intentional, especially after Jack.

            But the bigger deal is that the ref/doctor allowed him to continue. Seems like we see a lot of (imo) premature stoppages these days. It was a relief that they didn't stop this.

            After the headbutt, it appeared Beterbiev was holding his head in such a way to let the blood drip off his nose instead of going into his eyes. And I still think it was messing up his vision at times. When Browne was catching him and it looked like he just couldn't see the jabs at times.

            Something else I noticed was that he didn't even paw at it once with his glove. He was just holding his head that way. Maybe he knew that wiping it away could get it in his eyes worse or mess up the path off his nose or something. Or maybe he was just too focused on destruction. I don't know but anyway, a lot of times, guys will keep wiping. He didn't.
            If he wasn't running the risk of severely cutting himself on his own brow, I would be more inclined to believe that he did it intentionally. Most guys that intentionally do that aim with the top of the head against the brow, not the brown against another fighters forehead. I think it was just a case of the old southpaw jinx.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by buge View Post

              Yeah, he had a good drip path going so it was smart to not smear it and alter that to possibly get it in his eyes.
              Shows extra thinking capacity on Beterbiev's part that he managed to keep coming forward, attacking and not getting flustered or angry by the cut.

              They way he carried on 'business as usual' despite the massive cut shows from him a highly intelligent level of operational ability that fighters rarely possess. Age breeds wisdom.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by CasperUK View Post

                Shows extra thinking capacity on Beterbiev's part that he managed to keep coming forward, attacking and not getting flustered or angry by the cut.

                They way he carried on 'business as usual' despite the massive cut shows from him a highly intelligent level of operational ability that fighters rarely possess. Age breeds wisdom.
                That and he's a beast overall. I think he would give Canelo all that he could handle.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Boxing Goat View Post

                  That and he's a beast overall. I think he would give Canelo all that he could handle.
                  He would destroy Canelo.

                  People (low IQ idiots, Canelo fanatics and casuals) seem to think that Canelo will either take out Beterbiev with bodyshots or one punch KO him.

                  Ask yourselves this; how often does Beterbiev get hit to the body? Look at his stance and crouch. His lead leg is extended forward (maximum aggression pushing forwards) which means he gives up very little space to the body. A shorter guy like Canelo would struggle unless they're in very close and a taller guy would have to give up his stance just to attack to the body.

                  It's very calculated but people just dismiss him as a puncher and a brute whereas he is anything but.

                  Also, rewatch the Browne fight, Beterbiev very rarely got hit flush even through he was bleeding like an animal at a slaughterhouse.


                  Canelo's only chance is in the centre of the ring and countering Beterbiev, otherwise he gets pushed back to the ropes, turned, grappled and clubbed into submission while losing his punching leverage on the backfoot.
                  Last edited by CasperUK; 12-23-2021, 02:25 PM.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by CasperUK View Post

                    He would destroy Canelo.

                    People (low IQ idiots, Canelo fanatics and casuals) seem to think that Canelo will either take out Beterbiev with bodyshots or one punch KO him.

                    Ask yourselves this; how often does Beterbiev get hit to the body? Look at his stance and crouch. His lead leg is extended forward (maximum aggression pushing forwards) which means he gives up very little space to the body. A shorter guy like Canelo would struggle unless they're in very close and a taller guy would have to give up his stance just to attack to the body.

                    It's very calculated but people just dismiss him as a puncher and a brute whereas he is anything but.

                    Also, rewatch the Browne fight, Beterbiev very rarely got hit flush even through he was bleeding like an animal at a slaughterhouse.


                    Canelo's only chance is in the centre of the ring and countering Beterbiev, otherwise he gets pushed back to the ropes, turned, grappled and clubbed into submission while losing his punching leverage on the backfoot.
                    I would love to see the fight and feel like Canelo is avoiding Beterbiev and Bivol.......but.......I also would not overlook Canelo's ability to adjust and win a fight.
                    Last edited by Boxing Goat; 12-23-2021, 03:40 PM.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Boxing Goat View Post

                      If he wasn't running the risk of severely cutting himself on his own brow, I would be more inclined to believe that he did it intentionally. Most guys that intentionally do that aim with the top of the head against the brow, not the brown against another fighters forehead. I think it was just a case of the old southpaw jinx.
                      Could be. It happens, just like the foot thing. Or maybe he missed.

                      I don't know if guys practice that. I suppose if they do, they would have a high rate of being effective at it. But if it's just a plan B, then maybe it doesn't always work the way they want it to.
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