Comments Thread For: Doctor: Teofimo Lopez 'Lucky He's Not Dead' Due To Breathing Issue Before, After Kambosos Bout

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  • Jsmooth9876
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    #61
    Originally posted by Oldskoolg

    best post I have read so far, total agreement, and I’m not even a teo fan at present. Looked like a p4p fighter against loma, looked totally out of his league against the Spartan. I think we found out why
    He got beat up the 2nd half of the Loma fight except for round 12 and the first half of the fight Loma didnt throw any punches so I'm not so sure that the guy we just saw lose isn't who he is

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    • BHop5150
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      #62
      Originally posted by Rockybigblower

      2 questions. Firstly...who's attesting to their credibility. Secondly...how did they obtain these records? Is there no such thing as doctor patient confidentiality in the U.S.? If so...then Lopez would have had to sign off on the release of those records for public viewing. The only reasonable reason to do that is to create propaganda and to try to support the lie that is his truth. He thinks he won. He believes the only way he could have lost was if he was at 5% capacity. Don't buy into it. The better man won on the night.
      No, Lopez could give the doctors permission to disclose this information.
      That doesn't mean that all of the records become available to the public.
      He probably didn't want to be accused of making excuses.

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      • Jsmooth9876
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        #63
        Originally posted by BHop5150

        It was probably from COVID.
        Dim wit
        Or it wasnt from either dim wit #2

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        • billeau2
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          #64
          Originally posted by Cypocryphy

          I have a friend who grew up in New York, at least until she was 12 years old or so, and she has asthma. That's interesting. I wonder if she's aware of many people in that area developing asthma.

          It would be nice to talk to the doctors, for sure, because this sounds like another PR piece by Kriegel for Teofimo. He's the one that broke the story that Teofimo had an injured toe, which needed surgery, after the Loma fight. His broken toe that was mysteriously not there when Teofimo was doing backflips. And again we have Kriegel breaking the story of Teofimo's illness. Kriegel is coming off like Lopez's PR person. He never writes a story critical of Lopez. It makes me wonder about ESPN's relationship with Lopez. I think ESPN has a lot of money invested in him, so this is damage control. That's what it seems like to me.

          ​​​​​​​And yeah, oxygen is probably the most important element boxing. The worse thing that can happen to a fighter is gassing out. I lost a fight because I gassed by the end of the third round. The ref thought I was injured after taking a shot because of my body language (I assume). But the shot didn't even phase me really; I had punched myself out and was waiting for the round to end. I always remember that because I realized how important conditioning is and that the worst thing that can happen to a fighter is getting tired. I don't think there's anything more detrimental.

          ​​​​​​​And I agree completely that I can't see Lopez fighting through that. Paul Felder from the UFC fought with a collapsed lung but that happened at the end of the fight, I believe. I think it happened at the very end, that a piece of his lung came off. As much as I'd like to believe Lopez, he's human after all, and there's no way he could have fought with that condition. I think it's something that occurred at the end of the fight or afterward. The kid is not superman.

          As an aside, I think the worst injury I ever heard of someone playing through was a busted spleen. Chris Sims of TampaBay Buccaneers played through a busted spleen, so there are instances of superhumanism, but like you said, I can't imagine Lopez fighting like that and then doing backflips afterward.
          Yeah its an epidemic. Sadly. Yeah... that angle for the PR sounds correct. Especially that there is a "pattern" of these things to overcome. George Patton said it best: "Fatigue Makes Cowards of us All." Anyone who has been in that situation knows how tough things are in general... what can be done, and what sounds off. Pain can be fought through... Broken Jaws, Hands, Toes... Its not easy, the adrenaline helps, but even most fighters can't really do it. But when your air supply is off? No way, the more I think about it... including the points made in your post.

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          • Rockybigblower
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            #65
            Originally posted by tritium_arma

            Do you believe Loma had a shoulder injury?
            I don't know if he did...and I don't care. Loma fought the fight and lost. My opinion is he lost the fight not because of injury but because he started too slow. Based on that opinion and what I saw from Lopez in the second half of that fight...I believed that Lopez was a good fighter but definitely not what he was made out to be...and that's why I predicted a Kambosos win. Kambosos won on the activity that Loma lacked. He showed...as did Loma in the second half of the fight...that Teo can't take pressure. Likely more an anxiety thing than an injury.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Jsmooth9876

              Or it wasnt from either dim wit #2
              It is a common after effect of Covid
              dim wit #3

              But I'm sure you have much more medical experience than i do so

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                #67
                Originally posted by PBR Streetgang

                According to the ESPN article, Two states he had a flareup of symptoms after the weigh in when they went to Carmine's restaurant for a meal. He said he thought it was acid reflux and he felt the need to burp and his neck began to swell. I'm assuming he thought some of the issues, if they in fact occurred, to be a result of his asthma or the acid reflux.

                ​​​​​​
                Ok, thanks, I was just wondering. Pretty dangerous situation.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by JonDelPrado
                  Holy crap! That does explain a lot. Unless your name is buster douglas, you don’t go from beating a Lomachenko to losing to a Kambosos. Kambosos is ripe for the taking, any of the other 135 pounders is going to whip his ass and take the belts. There’s gotta be a manic scramble right about now behind the scenes for one of them to secure the fight.
                  Ha Ha, George stated He went from hunting the Champ to being Hunted by all contenders.
                  Tank Davis is licking his lips. Your right, The race who gets George first and all the belts is on.

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                  • Jsmooth9876
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by BHop5150

                    It is a common after effect of Covid
                    dim wit #3

                    But I'm sure you have much more medical experience than i do so
                    I don't need to have more medical experience than you, it took me 2 seconds to google the fact that it's not common at all lol

                    I'll also add that another 2 second google search told me that about 10% of people who experience blunt trauma can have this happen to them.
                    Last edited by Jsmooth9876; 12-04-2021, 07:54 PM.

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                    • eco1
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                      #70
                      From a doctor's point of view, this is bs. Sorry.

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