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  • kafkod
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    #51
    Originally posted by tokon

    Yes, a fair point in isolation. The reality is that ukad is seriously underfunded, does very little testing and, at least as far as I'm aware doesn't offer a 365/24/7 program?
    UKAD can randomly test any UK boxer at any time, 365/7. But due to lack of funding, a boxer can go all year without being tested at all. The same problem applies to VADA 365 though, which is why fighters and promoters often pay for VADA advanced, with extra random testing for both guys in the lead up to a big fight. UKAD also step up the testing for UK boxers in the lead up to big fights, which is why Whyte was being tested by both UKAD and VADA before the Rivas fight.

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    • kafkod
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      #52
      Originally posted by tokon

      So, as you say, they can but don't. As I said, I'm unaware of them offering a specific 365/24/7 program at the fighters expense that guarantees being randomly tested throughout the year like, for example, VADA do.
      I don't think UKAD have any program like that. But like I said in my previous post, they will target UK licensed boxers with extra random testing before a big fight.
      Last edited by kafkod; 12-10-2021, 12:19 PM.

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      • tokon
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        #53
        Originally posted by kafkod

        UKAD can randomly test any UK boxer at any time, 365/7. But due to lack of funding, a boxer can go all year without being tested at all. The same problem applies to VADA 365 though, which is why fighters and promoters often pay for VADA advanced, with extra random testing for both guys in the lead up to a big fight. UKAD also step up the testing for UK boxers in the lead up to big fights, which is why Whyte was being tested by both UKAD and VADA before the Rivas fight.
        My understanding is that the fighter pays for VADA 365? Surely that guarantees testing?
        You're making it sound like UKAD does a lot of random testing of Oro boxing in the UK. I don't think that's the case.

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          #54
          Originally posted by tokon

          My understanding is that the fighter pays for VADA 365? Surely that guarantees testing?
          You're making it sound like UKAD does a lot of random testing of Oro boxing in the UK. I don't think that's the case.
          "UKAD 24/7, 365 days per year ‘whereabouts’ testing"

          https://www.ukad.org.uk/news/attenti...s-are-changing

          UKAD's confidentiality rules mean they don't say anything about their tests unless somebody fails. Even then, the only people they inform are the fighter concerned and the promoter of the fight.

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            #55
            Originally posted by kafkod

            "UKAD 24/7, 365 days per year ‘whereabouts’ testing"

            https://www.ukad.org.uk/news/attenti...s-are-changing

            .
            Those rules only apply to athletes within a "testing pool".

            I appreciate your perspective, however it seems like we have a different view regarding the efficacy of drug testing within British professional boxing and I don't want to go back-and-forth any more. Thanks.

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            • hugh grant
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              #56
              So it's settled. No step aside money. Of course we know you got what it takes to be champion. You can do it but usyks favourite

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              • JDBarrett
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                #57
                Originally posted by Jkp

                Ruiz rematch was one sided because Ruiz was morbidly obese for that fight and hadn't trained.

                Ruiz and Usyk both have a much higher boxing iq than AJ. That's why they beat him.
                I agree.

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                  #58
                  rather than trash aj, maybe start appreciating how good the HW scene is?

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                  • rickJen
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                    #59
                    I'm not even big into these heavyweight divisions. But I can't dislike these types of fighters.
                    He made a lot of money and can retire in style if he wants to. Obviously, it's not only the money for him.
                    Unlike others, who haven't even made that kind of money, had 1 to 2 loses and they're already thinking
                    of retiring. Some can't even stay active due to fear of losing. So.......

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