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  • #91
    Originally posted by drablj View Post
    he thinks fights will be easier at 140 lol. commey, lomachenko and kambosos are easy peasy compared to subriel matias, jose ramirez, regis prograis and josh taylor. josh is slipping though. i would like him to fight lomachenko and crawford and retire, lomachenko to retire next year too. don't let anyone use you to build his name when you pass your peak.
    how is josh slipping?

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    • #92
      After the 10th finished and he went to sit down on his chair his old man has is back turned to him jeering it up to the crowd.
      His Father is what is wrong with Teo.
      Get rid off him so he has nothing to do with his life then he might just get somewhere.
      SNES interview with Radio Raheen you could tell was very drunk and talking crap.
      Teo needs to be a man and tell him to *** off.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Noelanthony View Post
        Being a dad myself I genuinely feel sorry for the guy. Im sure he actually believed his son was the best thing since slice bread so not only did his son lose his belts but all of senior's aspirations and future plans. Furthermore it didnt take a killer to expose him either. George is ok but he gets beat by a few at 135. My advice to him is just keep quiet and work. Teo can come again believe it or not he just needs to get rid of his dad as trainer
        Just like you got rid of me as your mentor even though I was a great dad to you and gave you everything you backstabbed me. You are a terrible son and my grandson will do same to you one day

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Gaylord Barrett View Post

          Just like you got rid of me as your mentor even though I was a great dad to you and gave you everything you backstabbed me. You are a terrible son and my grandson will do same to you one day
          This is what i don't understand GAY, you dont mind if i call you gay do you its easier than writing Gaylord. You message me and i put you in your place and you obviously feel a way because you have since followed me in every thread. Look at what you are writing its not even funny where i can say " damn he got me there". You are a self professed Gay how can you be my dad? Hey there is absolutely nothing wrong in gobbling balls by the way but you have to own it. As i stated earlier because me and your mum are at loggerheads doesn't mean we have to be sworn enemies. I used to slap your mums arse in front of you and you didn't do a thing. Now you started taking it up the arse, you think you are a tough guy

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          • #95
            Originally posted by jmrf4435 View Post

            how is josh slipping?
            for the record, i am his fan. his style is exausting. it takes a toll on his body every time he fights. he has to give his best to win every fight. his ceiling was the prograis fight. we couldn't see anything in his ko1 win afterwards but josh was not as good in his ramirez fight. he won that fight on tactics alone (his team saw that ramirez is susceptible to punches after clinches). it's not that ramirez stopped him from showing his best, he didn't have the energy to exert to be his usual self and win the later rounds. he was coasting and looking like a boss because of those knockdowns but in reality he just couldn't do better. he nearly blew it. josh is barely winning his tough fights (on unbiased cards). he won't be shot soon, but slipping a little more means losses are coming.

            i want fighters to fight their toughest (and most paid) fights when they are close to their peak, not when they are 34-35 (unless someone is a late starter and couldn't achieve anything until let's say 30). that way the fights will be better and fighters can retire earlier with their faculties intact (or close to). there's no need to fight until they are 35-40 if they start around 20. that's why i would like taylor - lomachenko (lomachenko retires immediately), crawford - taylor and crawford - spence or crawford at 154 with him retiring soon too.

            it's just my opinion. nobody has to agree on anything.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Butt stuff View Post

              I had never even considered Taylor - Loma. In my head I'd always felt like they were too far apart in size, but Lopez is probably pretty comparable in size and Loma wasn't exactly dwarfed by him, he did struggle though.

              Sounds like Taylor will move up after Catterall though so we'll probably not see either of them take him on.
              Im not sure Lopez and Taylor are that comparable in size. Did you see Taylor next to Crawford last week? Taylor is BIG at 140. He will be at home at 147.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by SplitSecond View Post

                Khan was way better than Lopez under Roach (he hated the wars, but his chin was ass without them). Lopez legit sucks as a boxer i.e. not intelligent. He was jumping into shots vs Magdaleno too. He always leaps, has stamina problems, and has sht defense that saw him pieced up by Nakatani;s jab and looking like a Pez dispenser vs Loma;s combos (guys don’t usually get hit by full combo’s, but Lopez manages it). He’s highly flawed and his strength is just strength, durability and speed. But he also has a history of getting slumped in sparring, that’s that defense. He doesn’t have much power neither, it’s strength, he wont ever KO a top level guy like Tank did to Santa Cruz, his technique isn’t that good, too much weightlifting. I’d say Khan had more power than Lopez.
                Khan was better under Roach because Roach is a master matchmaker. If Khan stayed with Roach, he would have had a HOF career.

                Under Roach, Khan was being matched very carefully. A steady diet of light punchers, mismatches and older boxers. Except for Marcos Maidana, who Roach realized was a huge mistake midway and wanted to stop the fight.

                Khan’s resume under Roach:

                Oisin ***an
                Marco Antonio Barrera
                Andriy Kotelnyk
                Dmitry Salita
                Paulie Malignaggi
                Marcos Maidana
                Paul McCloskey
                Zab Judah
                Lamont Peterson
                Danny Garcia (late replacement for Peterson rematch)

                Great matchmaking by Roach. Roach calls the shots on opponents and he is allowed to by promoters, due to track record of knowing how to build a fighter’s confidence. Roach matches his boxers up with boxers that he sees his fighter will likely end up being in a mismatch against, in his favor.

                Peterson and DSG were not expected to be as tough as they were.

                Maidana had just come off a bit of a struggle vs DeMarcus Corley. He was essentially seen as a fighter who seemed as a one-hit wonder for what he did to Victor Ortiz.

                Teofimo Lopez is definitely not as bad as Khan. I can’t see Khan surviving vs Commey or Kambosos.







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                • #98
                  Originally posted by -Kev- View Post

                  Khan was better under Roach because Roach is a master matchmaker. If Khan stayed with Roach, he would have had a HOF career.

                  Under Roach, Khan was being matched very carefully. A steady diet of light punchers, mismatches and older boxers. Except for Marcos Maidana, who Roach realized was a huge mistake midway and wanted to stop the fight.

                  Khan’s resume under Roach:

                  Oisin ***an
                  Marco Antonio Barrera
                  Andriy Kotelnyk
                  Dmitry Salita
                  Paulie Malignaggi
                  Marcos Maidana
                  Paul McCloskey
                  Zab Judah
                  Lamont Peterson
                  Danny Garcia (late replacement for Peterson rematch)

                  Great matchmaking by Roach. Roach calls the shots on opponents and he is allowed to by promoters, due to track record of knowing how to build a fighter’s confidence. Roach matches his boxers up with boxers that he sees his fighter will likely end up being in a mismatch against, in his favor.

                  Peterson and DSG were not expected to be as tough as they were.

                  Maidana had just come off a bit of a struggle vs DeMarcus Corley. He was essentially seen as a fighter who seemed as a one-hit wonder for what he did to Victor Ortiz.

                  Teofimo Lopez is definitely not as bad as Khan. I can’t see Khan surviving vs Commey or Kambosos.






                  Nah. It’s pretty clear his chin was solid with Roach & Ariza. He didn’t get hurt at all until Maidana where he never went down, Teofimo would get knocked out vs Maidana from half the punches Amir took. He was sloppy, open etc but a ball of energy and grit, he was better than Lopez and would’ve beaten him up too. Khan would’ve killed Commey he blitzes to hard early for a guy of Commey’s lvl to survive and he’d beat Kambo, too busy, too fast with ambushes and combo’s, much better stamina and workrate than Teo has ever shown.

                  Before and After Roach he was getting wobbled and dropped by much weaker and powderpuff opponents. So it’s not just true that it was matchmaking, he clearly had a chin despite his awful defense. Getting dropped by Willie Limond and Samuel Vargas doe….
                  Last edited by SplitSecond; 11-30-2021, 01:04 PM.

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