Comments Thread For: Golovkin Confident That He Holds The "Secret" To Beat Canelo

[Elastic Rec0il]

this.
GGG had won his first title in the ring only 2 years before at age 33.
Thats no bad thing in itself.

But its clear he left it late, since he'd been fighting for the bum IBO belt for years previous...particularly in light of Canelo striding 5 divisions titles before he has even reached that age.
You have to wonder if him leaving it so late, and him facing the weakest title holder in ages in David Smellieux, was not a coincidence.

Say what you want about Lemieux's boxing ability but he is P4P one of the hardest punchers in the sport, even till this day. In-fact I'd say he hits harder than Canelo. Canelo has to load up to get power shots off where fighters like Golovkin and Lemieux are naturally heavy handed.

[DreamFighter]

Say what you want about Lemieux's boxing ability but he is P4P one of the hardest punchers in the sport, even till this day. In-fact I'd say he hits harder than Canelo. Canelo has to load up to get power shots off where fighters like Golovkin and Lemieux are naturally heavy handed.

no he only knocks out bums.
that may remind you of someone you know.

[Elastic Rec0il]

no he only knocks out bums.
that may remind you of someone you know.

You clearly don't know what your're talking about. Just listen to the sound of Lemieux's shots - you can hear that percussive crashing sound that you don't hear from most MW or SMW. Suppose you think Deontay Wilder only had the power to knock out bums as well.

To your original question, yes Canelo. He couldn't knockout any of Mosley, Trout, Mayweather, Lara, Cotto, Chavez Jr, Golovkin, Jacobs, and Callum Smith. These were the best fighters he fought and he couldn't knockout any of them. The rest were literally domestic level bums and old war veterans.

In my opinion also, for the Kovalev fight, I'm convinced that a no knockout clause was written into the contract for Kovalev because he didn't even try (they probably payed him handsomely. Even the jabs he threw were not the usual power jabs he throws but more like little caresses. Its not like Canelo was doing anything to make him think about throwing. It was a very dull fight to watch as was Canelo's bout with Jacobs.

[harry-greb]

I wrote about a paragraph for each round. I find it telling that you claimed a few of the clear rounds I had for GGG, were close, and that one of Canelo's rounds, which I said was close, you said was clear lol. You clearly didn't even play by your own rules in analyzing my post, which tells me everything about your intentions.

Rounds 1, 2, 3, 5, 6 and 9, and even 12 if you want to throw that in - were somewhat close, close enough where an honest person could have seen it the other way.

In truth, it wasn't really hard to score. As you had to have 1 guy up 2-1 after 3 - I had Canelo up 2-1, not GGG. That is hardly favoring GGG, sliding 2 of the first 3 close rounds to Canelo.

5 and 6 were close-ish but pretty clearly a 1-1 split for each guy, which is what I did. 3-2 close rounds for Canelo.

9 and 12 were close. I slid 9 to Canelo, and 12 to GGG. Though I think they both earned those rounds. G earned his at the end of 12, and Canelo closed 9 better and earned his that way. 4-3 close rounds for Canelo.

4. 7. 8. 10. 11 were all clear to GGG for me, every time I watch them. I have watched that fight 10 times and never scored those rounds differently than to G. That says it all.

As I said, try reading the whole thing, instead of of reading what you want to read (or seeing what you want to see). That seems to be a common problem for you.

There are close, either way type of rounds. And then competitive, close rounds, which one guy clearly wins. For example a round can be 'close' and then one guy lands the last 3 or 4 shots of the round. Or it can be a close round, except for one guy landing a huge shot halfway through the round. At the end of the round, it is clear whose round it is. I shouldn't have to explain those things to you.

I saw GGG outland Canelo in nearly every round, by my count. So not sure why you're saying anything about punches landed. I would say Canelo kept himself in some rounds because he landed some solid punches even when he was outworked. And probably did some good work to the body - I say probably, because he smothered a lot of his work on the inside, which is normal for that type of fighting.

But on the last rewatch, I really did my best to give him as much credit for that as I could have. I'm sure if I slowed it down, some shots would have been really good, and many were probably partially or totally blocked. I say that because the body work didn't seem to slow GGG down at all.

But even with giving him as much of a fair advantage as I could, I couldn't see more than 5 rounds for him, as I mentioned in my thread. Keep reading and trying to understand what you read!! You can do it bud.

Firstly I never claimed anything. I am using your own words in your scoring paragraphs. Rd1 close round ; rd2 close round,; rd3 not much in it; rd5 close round; rd7 close round; rd8 close round; Rd 9 very tight; Rd11 probably G's; Rd 12 "I think u have to give it to G. 12th rounds are always tough for me to score". (but u still managed to score it for your boy. Funny that!!!)

You also say rounds 4,7,8,10,11 are all clear for golovkin. You've watched it 10 times and always score those rounds the same.

Yet canelo landed more punches in the 7th and the same amount of punches in the 11th. He also has made golovkin miss 73% of his punches in those rounds (DEFENCE)
and he has a better connect percentage in all those rounds.
Are u sure you're not being biased towards golovkin??

Another thing that leads me to believe you're biased towards golovkin is you mention canelo's punches missing, and not landing clean and smothering his work on the inside.
Yet you never mention the punches golovkin misses or has blocked by canelo. 645 according to compubox. Defence is one of the scoring criteria after all. It's just behind the "always give the first round to the champion" criteria!!! Lol sorry but that cracks me up!!!
Another illustration of pro ggg bias

I read and understood. I did it bud!!!

[harry-greb]

Lol. You're just kind of annoying man. I just don't care enough to talk about it. I have jobs to do and a life outside of that. I've given my views on the fight. That fight isn't high on my list of rewatching. Watched it live and scored it, that's all you need to do. And for giggles I've watched it back multiple times over the years as well.

Kov had a much better case of being up 6-0 than only being up 4-2. Kov should have been up 5-1. And the last 6 were competitive rounds. If the whole fight went that way, and Kov lost 7-5, I could have seen that, but I think over the last 6 he was slightly better than Ward as well. He won the clearest round (10th). Ward didn't have one obvious round the entire fight.

He just had no chance of winning. Embarrassed for the first 6, battled back the last 6. Definitely lost. 8-4 to Kov felt generous to Ward on fight night. When a fight is that obvious to you, you don't need to rewatch. Though I have, just for sh.its and giggles.

Yeah I thought so. Giving it the big talk of ward getting battered and embarrassed the first 6 rounds, yet when I call you on it, and ask you to point it out to me, you pull the ole "I just don't care enough to talk about it" routine. It's easier to feign indifference than it is to accept defeat.

[ruedboy]

Alvarez vs Golovkin 2 was a classic fight and Ring's FOTY. Both guys fought well and pushed each other further than either had been pushed before. Fans were the big winners that nite.
With that said, for all of Alvarez's so called aggression, Golovkin's back never touched the ropes. G fought Alvarez the way a longer fighter is supposed to, he circled, jabbed his face off and made him pay when he was reaching.
The Vegas judges had to bend over backwards to rob the champ and give the win to the cash cow (no pun intended) and they did (once again).

[Boxing-1013]

Firstly I never claimed anything. I am using your own words in your scoring paragraphs. Rd1 close round ; rd2 close round,; rd3 not much in it; rd5 close round; rd7 close round; rd8 close round; Rd 9 very tight; Rd11 probably G's; Rd 12 "I think u have to give it to G. 12th rounds are always tough for me to score". (but u still managed to score it for your boy. Funny that!!!)

You also say rounds 4,7,8,10,11 are all clear for golovkin. You've watched it 10 times and always score those rounds the same.

Yet canelo landed more punches in the 7th and the same amount of punches in the 11th. He also has made golovkin miss 73% of his punches in those rounds (DEFENCE)
and he has a better connect percentage in all those rounds.
Are u sure you're not being biased towards golovkin??

Another thing that leads me to believe you're biased towards golovkin is you mention canelo's punches missing, and not landing clean and smothering his work on the inside.
Yet you never mention the punches golovkin misses or has blocked by canelo. 645 according to compubox. Defence is one of the scoring criteria after all. It's just behind the "always give the first round to the champion" criteria!!! Lol sorry but that cracks me up!!!
Another illustration of pro ggg bias

I read and understood. I did it bud!!!

All you score in a fight, is what lands. Nothing else matters.

I provided even more clarification to my scorecard in the last post. For your response now to be one which tries to argue against it, instead of saying "OK I got ya", it again shows your intentions here.

You're looking for an argument, about something I don't care about.

First too close to call round should probably edge to the champ. Unless you want to score it 10-10. You guys are weird as hell as far as the type of stuff you try to argue about, lol.

[Boxing-1013]

Yeah I thought so. Giving it the big talk of ward getting battered and embarrassed the first 6 rounds, yet when I call you on it, and ask you to point it out to me, you pull the ole "I just don't care enough to talk about it" routine. It's easier to feign indifference than it is to accept defeat.

Man I bet you are the dorkiest looking loser ever in real life, lol

[DreamFighter]

then tell me who he has beat.

[DreamFighter]

You clearly don't know what your're talking about. Just listen to the sound of Lemieux's shots - you can hear that percussive crashing sound that you don't hear from most MW or SMW. Suppose you think Deontay Wilder only had the power to knock out bums as well.

To your original question, yes Canelo. He couldn't knockout any of Mosley, Trout, Mayweather, Lara, Cotto, Chavez Jr, Golovkin, Jacobs, and Callum Smith. These were the best fighters he fought and he couldn't knockout any of them. The rest were literally domestic level bums and old war veterans.

In my opinion also, for the Kovalev fight, I'm convinced that a no knockout clause was written into the contract for Kovalev because he didn't even try (they probably payed him handsomely. Even the jabs he threw were not the usual power jabs he throws but more like little caresses. Its not like Canelo was doing anything to make him think about throwing. It was a very dull fight to watch as was Canelo's bout with Jacobs.

then tell me who lemieux has beat with these punches, since you mention mosley, trout lara mayweather etc.

oh u cant.
from guy who just said "dont know what youre talkking about" Hialrious.