Comments Thread For: Andy Ruiz Expects To Fight & Beat Deontay Wilder, Labels Fury As Best Heavyweight

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  • Inspired
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    #51
    Originally posted by SimpleTouchee

    Why none of these guys are fighting each other? That what's wrong with boxing too many inactive fighters in boxing.
    joyce vs dubois
    aj vs whyte
    aj vs parker
    aj vs ruiz
    whyte vs parker
    parker vs ruiz

    usyk is fairly new to the division and has been in with Chisora and has also been in with Joyce in the amateurs (the WSBs).
    Parker has stated that if he beats Chisora then he wants the Joyce fight. Credit to parker, he normally looks like he has no desire left in him in boxing, but then he says something like that. Hrgovic is being avoided because he isnt a big money fight but he is a massive risk.

    the current top guys were lucky to have come in when Wlad was one foot out the door. They got to hold belts and have the bigger fights to become names. The likes of Hrgovic, Makhmudov, Jalolov are on the same tier in terms of what i expect from them. They're beasts. However they arent big money fights for anyone so who would want to put on them fights?

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    • DJrabit
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      #52
      PBC fighters always naming fighters they say they want to fight next clearly knowing it’s not going to happen

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      • Combat Talk Radio
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        #53
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

        Even at his best I don't know if Ruiz can beat Wilder. But you have to analyze this a little deeper, Andy was coming off a long layoff when he fought Arreola and it was his first training camp with Reynoso.

        Those things affected him but he still won the fight.

        Now he has to come back from his surgery so honestly I would take a tune-up or two before thinking of fighting Wilder if I was him.
        Here's what we do know.

        Ruiz was dropped.
        Ruiz has remained in terrible shape.

        He's the Big Pun of boxing.

        He's not going to be able to get out of the way of the right hand and he damn sure can't chin shots from power.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Inspired

          Aj, usyk, ruiz, probably sanchez, joyce , dubois, hrgovic, whyte, yoka, makhmudov, jalolov, parker, sir alen babic, fabio wardley, johnny fisher, prince nazeem hamed etc are all better than beyonce wilder at HW.
          swear to you, even guys like murat gassiev will bury wilder. One punch and theyll knock him out. Feather fisted fury could do it, scorniers could do it. You think these heavy hitters wont knock wilder out?
          and dont mention ortiz, whether it wws cheating in the first fight or a fix in the second, wilder is not better than even ortiz in reality.
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          Stop it little boy, pls. You sound as smart as a rock

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          • Inspired
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            #55
            Originally posted by â (Low- )

            Stop it little boy, pls. You sound as smart as a rock
            ultimately all of this rests on one singular truth

            wilder is dog sh** and always had a padded record, was protected etc.
            that is what you lot cant seem to come to terms with.

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              #56
              That is the fight we all wanna see. Ruiz looked bad fighting Arrela and Wilder is coming from devastating KO loss.

              But I really wanna see that. perfect fight for both. The winner continues as high level contender, the loser will have to fight worse competition.

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              • sicko
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                #57
                still a big fight, I would love to see it but Wilder needs a bounce back fight and Ruiz needs another fighter under his Belt with Reynoso also, a past it Arreola took him to hell and back that wasn't a easy fight by any stretch

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Inspired

                  joyce vs dubois
                  aj vs whyte
                  aj vs parker
                  aj vs ruiz
                  whyte vs parker
                  parker vs ruiz

                  usyk is fairly new to the division and has been in with Chisora and has also been in with Joyce in the amateurs (the WSBs).
                  Parker has stated that if he beats Chisora then he wants the Joyce fight. Credit to parker, he normally looks like he has no desire left in him in boxing, but then he says something like that. Hrgovic is being avoided because he isnt a big money fight but he is a massive risk.

                  the current top guys were lucky to have come in when Wlad was one foot out the door. They got to hold belts and have the bigger fights to become names. The likes of Hrgovic, Makhmudov, Jalolov are on the same tier in terms of what i expect from them. They're beasts. However they arent big money fights for anyone so who would want to put on them fights?
                  The issue with Makhmudov is he fights in Canada. The pandemic has been a huge issue for combat sports in Quebec. There is a great scene in that province & it is finally opening up but Mak doesn’t want to get vaccinated so he can’t come to Canada & is locked in a contract with his promoter there. As for Hrgovic he looks like a beast but i have read in a few articles from his country that the media blames sauerland for his career stalling. They say Kalle won’t pay guys. There was only one bid on the Hrgovic/Hunter eliminator. Hunter walked away & got paid twice as much to fight on Triller. How can a guy be promoted by Sauerland & Matchroom & not get fights? It is all about money. Mark De Mori is the WBA #9 somehow & rumours they couldn’t even secure De Mori & instead he fights Hunter on next Triller event. It sounds like they are not willing to sink more money inyo Hrgovic. I’d like to see him sign with PBC or Arum & bring him to the US. His career has stalled in Europe.

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                  • El_Mero
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                    #59
                    Think Ruiz will make it fun but hes too slow and has no movement. Wilder by ko in 5

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                    • topo5358
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                      #60
                      I get such a kick out of these folks who talk Fury up and dub him great, some even say the greatest...then in the same breath talk all this **** about Wilder, saying his record is padded and he can't box. Do they ever stop and look at what they're writing? Fury is great(and he even says Wilder is the 2nd best...and most dangerous heavyweight) and Wilder put him on his ass 4 times in 3 fights, after compiling a 41-0 record with 40 KOs. And he did this after first taking up boxing at age 20. Don't you think, in light of Fury's greatness,, maybe Wilder should get just a pinch of respect? And I still say if Wilder had come into fights 2 and 3 at the same weight he fought at in fight 1, he may never have lost. Gaining a lot of weight in an endurance sport is damn tricky, unless, of course you can get hold of a little Mexican meat. He hit Fury with a thunderbolt in round 12 in the first fight and he was spent in round 4 in the 3rd fight. That's the extra muscle trying to function on the same cardio. Something in this conglomeration of horse**** just doesn't add up. Love Fury all you want, but give Wilder his due, if for nothing else but to preserve your own credibility.

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