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    It is only right that when discussing greatness references are made to the history books. At 34, time is not really on Terence Crawford's side as he looks to make his way up the imaginary lists of all-time greats and while Shown Porter might not feature so prominently he will affectionally be part of the conversation because of what he's done in his 35 professional fights.
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  • #2

    “All time great” my ass who the heck has he beaten to be considered that?

    Joke of a writer
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    • #3
      Wow.........each month the term ''ATG'' gets weaker and weaker
      Motofan, Carpe Diem and 6 others like this.

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      • #4
        Bud an ATG ? by beating who? HAHAHAHAHA Might as well call Gervonta Davis and Haney an all time great ffs.

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        • #5
          ATG vs Great?

          lol. Crawford is nowhere near an ATG. In a few years he will be forgotten. Porter has a great heart, but he's lost everytime he stepped up.

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          • #6
            Lol I read the full article for some context, before assuming the title meant that Crawford is an ATG and Porter is a great fighter. But I actually am still lost.

            Is this writer really calling Crawford an all time great?

            You can't be an all-time great with what Crawford did in his career.

            This guy hid behind Bob Arum, chasing one fight, vs Pacquiao, and never even got that fight. Chasing a past-prime great. While facing no-hoper after no-hoper. Resigning with TR, again, chasing a unicorn. Fighting nobody. All the top 10 WW's were with PBC, he avoided signing with PBC. Even Pacquiao grew tired of Top Rank and their lack of good challenges and left to PBC. The past prime great that Crawford was chasing, went across the street for better competition.

            Crawford has some good 147 names on his resume. Amir Khan, Kell Brook, and Shawn Porter (if he beats him). The problem with these names are that Khan was no longer ranked in TBRB or The Ring's top 10 welterweights. Neither was Kell Brook. So, two out of Crawford's best 3 names at 147 were not even seen as the part of top 10 best at the weight class.

            With Porter, Crawford is fighting the first ever top 5 ranked fighter of a weight class since he fought Viktor Postol. Postol was 2016. Crawford just went 5 years without facing a top 5 fighter. Media/writers still ranked Crawford very highly, without him even doing anything special at all.

            As far The Ring rankings go:

            Ricky Burns: #3 Ranked (135)

            Gamboa: Not top 10 (135)

            Beltran: #2 Ranked (135)

            Henry Lundy: Not top 10 (140)

            Dulorme: #10 Ranked (140)

            Dierry Jean: Not top 10 (140)

            Postol: #1 Ranked (140)

            Molina Jr: Not top 10 (140)

            Felix Diaz: Not top 10 (140)

            Indongo: #7 Ranked (140)

            Horn: #8 Ranked (147)

            Benavidez: Not top 10 (147)

            Khan: Not top 10 (147)

            Kavaliauskas: #7 (147)

            Kell Brook: Not top 10 (147)

            Shawn Porter: #4 (147)

            This guy is 34 years old, has been fighting pro since 2008, has fought in 3 weight classes, and only has a total of 3 wins over top 5 ranked fighters. Placing Crawford in the Hall of Fame is an insult to other fighters in the HOF. Claiming Crawford is an ATG is an insult to boxing as a whole.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
              Lol I read the full article for some context, before assuming the title meant that Crawford is an ATG and Porter is a great fighter. But I actually am still lost.

              Is this writer really calling Crawford an all time great?

              You can't be an all-time great with what Crawford did in his career.

              This guy hid behind Bob Arum, chasing one fight, vs Pacquiao, and never even got that fight. Chasing a past-prime great. While facing no-hoper after no-hoper. Resigning with TR, again, chasing a unicorn. Fighting nobody. All the top 10 WW's were with PBC, he avoided signing with PBC. Even Pacquiao grew tired of Top Rank and their lack of good challenges and left to PBC. The past prime great that Crawford was chasing, went across the street for better competition.

              Crawford has some good 147 names on his resume. Amir Khan, Kell Brook, and Shawn Porter (if he beats him). The problem with these names are that Khan was no longer ranked in TBRB or The Ring's top 10 welterweights. Neither was Kell Brook. So, two out of Crawford's best 3 names at 147 were not even seen as the part of top 10 best at the weight class.

              With Porter, Crawford is fighting the first ever top 5 ranked fighter of a weight class since he fought Viktor Postol. Postol was 2016. Crawford just went 5 years without facing a top 5 fighter. Media/writers still ranked Crawford very highly, without him even doing anything special at all.

              As far The Ring rankings go:

              Ricky Burns: #3 Ranked (135)

              Gamboa: Not top 10 (135)

              Beltran: #2 Ranked (135)

              Henry Lundy: Not top 10 (140)

              Dulorme: #10 Ranked (140)

              Dierry Jean: Not top 10 (140)

              Postol: #1 Ranked (140)

              Molina Jr: Not top 10 (140)

              Felix Diaz: Not top 10 (140)

              Indongo: #7 Ranked (140)

              Horn: #8 Ranked (147)

              Benavidez: Not top 10 (147)

              Khan: Not top 10 (147)

              Kavaliauskas: #7 (147)

              Kell Brook: Not top 10 (147)

              Shawn Porter: #4 (147)

              This guy is 34 years old, has been fighting pro since 2008, has fought in 3 weight classes, and only has a total of 3 wins over top 5 ranked fighters. Placing Crawford in the Hall of Fame is an insult to other fighters in the HOF. Claiming Crawford is an ATG is an insult to boxing as a whole.
              I'm surprised this article got through, with that title.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by TreyShaw View Post
                “All time great” my ass who the heck has he beaten to be considered that?

                Joke of a writer
                Well remember, Crawford "Beat The Man Who Beat The Man " (his words) and based on that win, he's a lock for HOF (his words).

                So everyone just ran with it. No need to prove it anymore.

                That's why Andrade is being called it too.

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                • #9
                  Hope Shawn wins this. One of the nicest guys in boxing. His friends also seem like really solid people.

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                  • #10
                    He ain't an all time great yet.
                    And kell Brook won the first 2 rounds.

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