When Undisputed Isn't Undisputed

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  • ReggieKray
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    #11
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
    Lomachenko was the WBC Champion, Teofimo beat Lomachenko.

    Devin Haney DEFINITELY isn't a legitimate Champion, that I do know.
    The Teo/Haney things is such a mess caused by WBC. Teofimo should be the undisputed champ, but technically isn't unfortunately.

    Although Haney didn't win the belt in a fight, for me he did earn it beating Linares.

    Teo knows his name isn't written in the books yet as Undisputed. If he really wants that, he should just fight Haney. I sure as hell would.

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    • IronDanHamza
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      #12
      Originally posted by ReggieKray

      The Teo/Haney things is such a mess caused by WBC. Teofimo should be the undisputed champ, but technically isn't unfortunately.

      Although Haney didn't win the belt in a fight, for me he did earn it beating Linares.

      Teo knows his name isn't written in the books yet as Undisputed. If he really wants that, he should just fight Haney. I sure as hell would.

      It's the other way round.

      Haney needs to beat Lopez if he wants to be a legitimate Champion.

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      • M312
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        #13
        Canelo is clearly undisputed.


        The real mess will come if Tyson Fury has to fight a mandatory one day and he drops the WBC belt, then the winner of Usyk/AJ fights them instead. Imagine that, a 4 belt undisputed champion... But doesnt hold the Ring belt (unless Fury is stripped for not facing his mandatory)

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        • TreyShaw
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          #14
          Originally posted by koolkc107
          I know we call it Undisputed when a fighter holds all 4 of the major belts. However, as a true fan I think that's not always the whole story. And, when those exceptions exist, we as fans need to be more vocal about it.

          Terrance Crawford was undisputed at 140. While some may argue that he didn't fight EVERY credible Jr welterweight, the ones he did beat represented the top of the division. No one would argue much that Bud defeated the second best 140 pounder in Postol.

          Josh Taylor is undisputed now. Again, by beating Prograis he undoubtedly defeated the next best man in division.

          Usyk became undisputed by beating the best his division had to offer. He did so in convincing fashion against arguably the next TWO best in his division

          These three are examples of true undisputed champions.

          Well, currently we have at least two boxers calling themselves undisputed who are anything but..

          Teofimo Lopez is calling himself undisputed when he hasn't even won all four belts. Someone needs to explain to him that the Franchise belt he won off Lomachenko is not THE BELT...Devin Haney has that. He cannot be undisputed until he takes THAT belt.

          And someone needs to explain to Canelo that, while the history books will indeed call him undisputed, real fans know that he didn't defeat the best super middleweight to get those belts. While he did knock out Caleb Plant who IS very good, his avoidance of David Benevidez is very noticeable and belies the very idea of undisputed. He needs to stop worrying about beating the weakest cruiserweight and handle that unfinished business. If he doesn't, that avoidance will also be a part of his legacy.
          Dumb **** you forgot one little thing.

          callum Smith was the super 6 Ring magazine smw champ he was cosidered the top dog and Canelo beat him to take that spot.

          How the fuxk is Benavidez considered the best when he holds to credible wins and no title?????

          unreal with you clown.

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          • Toffee
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            #15
            Disagree on Canelo. He is undisputed.

            Agree on Teo. He is factually not undisputed. Loma dropped the WBC belt.

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