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  • #71
    Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
    Who was available over Rivas at that time ? I’ll wait.
    Whyte was ordered to face Fury in a final eliminator. Whyte refused and fought Rivas instead.


    Molina was the highest ranking available guy is correct unfortunately I already said that because it was the same as the Rivas situation. Which is why I used that .
    It wasn't the same situation at all. Molina was a last minute replacement and the fight was offered to everybody in the ratings until somebody said yes.

    Whyte vs. Rivas was a fight signed by Hearn, that hadn't been ordered by the WBC, and after the fight was signed, then Hearn requested that it be made a final eliminator after the fact.


    Ortiz wasn’t a final elimination bout it was for the secondary mandatory position nice try though as they publicly confirmed it was for that as Breazeale was the actual mandatory still but you know the WBC inside out do you ?
    Breazeale was the mandatory. That doesn't mean you can't have a final eliminator to determine the next mandatory after Breazeale. Had Whyte won a final eliminator in 2018, he would have gotten his title shot in 2019. Instead, he made excuses, it's almost 2022, and Whyte still hasn't had a title shot. Whyte has nobody to blame but himself. He turned down multiple final eliminators and refused to earn the mandatory position in the ring.

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    • #72
      why are there autists in here saying Fury is the one "ducking" when it's the WBC that isn't going through with this mandatory

      some of yall are legit slow

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      • #73
        Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post

        How so? Whyte lost the #1 contender when he lost to Povetkin. WBC said the winner of Whyte/Wallin would be mandatory, then Whyte's arm got sore...
        Whyte vs Wallin was never ordered by the WBC. It would have been a voluntary defence, by Whyte, of his interim title. If Whyte was scared of fighting Wallin, why would he offer him that voluntary shot in the first place?



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        • #74
          Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post

          I'm the only one here that knows the WBC, WBA and IBF rules inside and out. I'm the only one here that talks to the presidents of the WBC and IBF every week.
          Bragging that you talk to one of the most notoriously corrupt liars in boxing every week is hardly going to make people trust what you're telling them.
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          • #75
            What is the legal dispute with the WBC? Is it not the fact he isn't getting his shot? LOLOLOL. It's all dumb as fkk, the WBC are a joke.

            The WBC are a disgrace and Fury v Whyte is a big fight, at least in the UK. There is nothing stopping Fury and his crispy cvnt of a promoter choosing to fight Whyte anyway which solves all the problems and makes a solid fight.

            When they say Fury may take a voluntary defence we all know its going to be against somebody as low ranked as they can get away with and it's going to stink.

            All round best solution is take on Whyte but we all know it ain't guna happen.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by kafkod View Post
              Bragging that you talk to one of the most notoriously corrupt liars in boxing every week is hardly going to make people trust what you're telling them.
              It's not bragging, it's just fact. I was falsely accused of not being familiar with sanctioning body rules even though I have proven myself over and over of having a better understanding of sanctioning body rules than anybody here.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post

                Whyte was ordered to face Fury in a final eliminator. Whyte refused and fought Rivas instead.




                It wasn't the same situation at all. Molina was a last minute replacement and the fight was offered to everybody in the ratings until somebody said yes.

                Whyte vs. Rivas was a fight signed by Hearn, that hadn't been ordered by the WBC, and after the fight was signed, then Hearn requested that it be made a final eliminator after the fact.




                Breazeale was the mandatory. That doesn't mean you can't have a final eliminator to determine the next mandatory after Breazeale. Had Whyte won a final eliminator in 2018, he would have gotten his title shot in 2019. Instead, he made excuses, it's almost 2022, and Whyte still hasn't had a title shot. Whyte has nobody to blame but himself. He turned down multiple final eliminators and refused to earn the mandatory position in the ring.
                Whyte was never offered to face Fury in a final elimination bout another lie ,Fury however did decline Whyte that the WBC ordered at one point for the Diamond belt .

                It doesn’t matter when Molina took the fight he was the next available guy , some of Wilders opponents were last minute guys having a few weeks to train .so what does that have to do with next available fighters where both guys weren’t ranked high when it got to them ?

                Whyte vs Rivas was said to be a title elimination bout after the fight ? Do you really think anyone on here buys that and believes you that it was announced after the fight ? When it was known to everyone on here it was for a shot at Wilder at the time leading up to it ?

                Now the IBF may not announce any title elimination bout until next year but it will be for a shot at A.J . If they go by their rules which requires a mandatory at a certain time period . Martin did have a title elimination bout with Washington but that doesn’t mean much why they took Hunter off the eligibility for declining what was an elimination fight against Hrgovic where they never disputed it was for a shot at A.J since Martin himself declined the Hunter fight first then Hunter declined Hrgovic that is a process of elimination itself ,these are facts making Hrgovic a final elimination contestant .


                Whyte did this or that doesn’t prove any of what I actually posted wrong ,you did that . The only thing you ever prove on here is trying to tell tall tales your the biggest liar on the forum or the most clueless if you really are involved in boxing business ?


                And what gets me is you make it real easy for anyone to call you out on blatantly lying on here all the time but I guess you’re allowed to do it as much as you like ? This link like many show how bad of a liar you actually are where it shows the WBC ordering the fight and expressing the winner of Whyte vs Rivas fights Wilder .

                https://fansided.com/2019/07/17/wbc-...r-rivas-fight/

                You are also a paid shill why would anyone of note on here take your words over mine can you imagine how many posts I have caught you lying on ? I’m not sure but the fact you’re still allowed on here is laughable in itself if spamming the forum is against the rules .

                billeau2 This is the actual truth how all that stuff worked out I know I was accused of lying to you by the biggest liar on the forum himself . I know you were interested in understanding it better you can listen to half truths or whole ones . I don’t get everything right but I’m also not paid to lie like someone who as you can see is caught again .
                Last edited by REDEEMER; 11-19-2021, 08:02 PM.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by kafkod View Post

                  Whyte vs Wallin was never ordered by the WBC. It would have been a voluntary defence, by Whyte, of his interim title. If Whyte was scared of fighting Wallin, why would he offer him that voluntary shot in the first place?


                  You’re making to much sense for this forum .

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by kafkod View Post

                    Bragging that you talk to one of the most notoriously corrupt liars in boxing every week is hardly going to make people trust what you're telling them.
                    ....not exactly helping that posters reputation ......

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by MoneyKasha View Post
                      why are there autists in here saying Fury is the one "ducking" when it's the WBC that isn't going through with this mandatory

                      some of yall are legit slow
                      Tyson Fury is the champion and he is also a gypsy.

                      According to gypsy fighting culture, if a man challenges you 'You must face him for the honor of your family name'. Dillian Whyte has repeatedly insulted Tyson Fury, and told everyone that he has beat him up in sparring.

                      Nobody cares about who is mandatory or whatever 'Dillian Whyte is a contender, he is game and he wants Tyson Fury'.

                      It is a big UK fight, the BIGGEST home coming fight that can be made for Tyson Fury.

                      I don't think Tyson Fury is afraid at all, but for some reason? He is kind of not enthusiastic about fighting Dillian Whyte.

                      Sometimes a fighter can inflict damage on a opponent in various ways 'By not facing certain opponents, you can actually deny them business'.

                      Maybe Tyson Fury is that irritated by Dillian Whyte, that he does not even want to give him the opportunity to do business with the Champion.

                      Note: If Dillian Whyte wants this fight, he honestly needs to forget these new school ways of online back and forth 'And sitting around waiting for promoters and lawyers to sort things out'. Dillian Whyte needs to confront Tyson Fury in person, whether this be at his gym or maybe at a social gathering. I have seen on these forums, people commenting on Tyson Fury's partying since his win against Deontay Wilder. Dillian Whyte should turn up at one of these events, and confront Tyson Fury 'Have a jostle' if it turns super violent? Embrace the violence.

                      I am honestly not sure why more fighters, don't take matters into their own hands. If you want to fight somebody, confront the opponent physically in real life. Firstly with verbal stipulations 'Then if that does not work, have a jostle'.


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