Why Canelo and Pacquiao stand out more than Mayweather

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  • daggum
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    #91
    tank davis is better than all 3, he has the sh-it resume like floyd, division hopping like pac, but hes never lost like canelo the loser.

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    • daggum
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      #92
      Originally posted by QueensburyRules

      - -Thanks for making it easy

      1. GGG undefeated knockout artist Ring Champ
      2. Cotto Ring Champ set the weight limit.
      3. Kov Ring #1
      4. Mosley not so far removed from Floydy/Manny bouts and still a rated fighter.
      5. Floydy stipulated a 152 restriction as the only way he would make the fight. Canelo was blue on the scales as his promoter vacated the premises to check into a celebrity rehab clinic incommunicado with the outside world he didn't want to talk to.

      U a Sissyboy Floydy Ellerbeewannabee?
      kov was ranked #2 by the ring not #1. mosley was not ranked by anyone that i know of. he hadn't won a fight in 3.5 years
      Last edited by daggum; 11-14-2021, 05:39 PM.

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      • hugh grant
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        #93
        Originally posted by LeOoze

        what? DLH, Barrera, Morales, Thurman are all good fighters, but they are not as good as Floyd. They have never beaten a fighter as good as floyd. Also interesting you put DLH, because Floyd actually beat him lol.

        Floyd on resume hasn't beaten anyone as good as Pac? He beat Pac. lol.

        Who are these fighters that Canelo beat that would beat Floyd?
        The onus is on you, you say Pac and nel O not beat anyone as good as floyd? Pac beat morales, barrera, thurman and we don't know if Floyd beats them. Yes Floyd beat a former light flyweight with 70 fights under belt, and Pac has a resume full of wins better than anyone floyf has fought.
        So not sure what you mean Pac and nel O not beat anyone as good as floyd, and not sure where your going. Ggg would beat floyd at 160 and above as Would Daniel Jacobs and bjs.

        Bottom line is why make statements like Pac and nel O not beat anyone as good as floyd when you can't prove Floyd beats anyone on nelow and pacsvresume
        Last edited by hugh grant; 11-14-2021, 06:32 PM.

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        • LeOoze
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          #94
          Originally posted by hugh grant

          The onus is on you, you say Pac and nel O not beat anyone as good as floyd? Pac beat morales, barrera, thurman and we don't know if Floyd beats them. Yes Floyd beat a former light flyweight with 70 fights under belt, and Pac has a resume full of wins better than anyone floyf has fought.
          So not sure what you mean Pac and nel O not beat anyone as good as floyd, and not sure where your going. Ggg would beat floyd at 160 and above as Would Daniel Jacobs and bjs.

          Bottom line is why make statements like Pac and nel O not beat anyone as good as floyd when you can't prove Floyd beats anyone on nelow and pacsvresume
          You specifically said Canelo fought fighters that would beat Floyd. That onus is on you, who are these fighters??

          You said GGG, daniel jacobs, and BJS who all fought at 160 and higher. Floyd never fought above 151 lbs in his life so that point is moot.

          Floyd beat marquez, who beat barrera, who beat morales. and Floyd beat Pac who later beat Thurman. There is no one who has beaten floyd.

          Can you prove Pacquiao can beat Castillo? Corrales? Oscar at 154?

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          • hugh grant
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            #95
            Originally posted by LeOoze

            You specifically said Canelo fought fighters that would beat Floyd. That onus is on you, who are these fighters??

            You said GGG, daniel jacobs, and BJS who all fought at 160 and higher. Floyd never fought above 151 lbs in his life so that point is moot.

            Floyd beat marquez, who beat barrera, who beat morales. and Floyd beat Pac who later beat Thurman. There is no one who has beaten floyd.

            Can you prove Pacquiao can beat Castillo? Corrales? Oscar at 154?
            Your the one who made the vague, open to interpretation statement and you can't prove it
            Last edited by hugh grant; 11-14-2021, 07:09 PM.

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            • QueensburyRules
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              #96
              Originally posted by daggum

              kov was ranked #2 by the ring not #1. mosley was not ranked by anyone that i know of. he hadn't won a fight in 3.5 years
              - -Can't prove Kov #1 for Canelo in Ring monthly ratings, but I recall he was after his resurgence. Mosely ranked #10 in their annual 2011 rankings.

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              • -Kev-
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                #97
                Originally posted by Hustle

                Canelo has fought 5 hall of fame fighters

                ggg age 35
                Cotto age 35
                Kovalev age 36
                Mosley age 40
                Mayweather age 36 (loss)

                Let that sink in.

                His biggest win is a controversial decision against a 36 year old golovkin.

                His first ever title came at a catchweight of 150 against matthew hatton for a 154 title.

                Then his first ever middleweight title came at a catchweight of 157 against cotto.


                Just some facts for you when it comes to the truth of canelo career. Good fighter. No spectacular wins unless we counting the cherries like chavez, kirkland, khan, ylidrim, fielding, hatton.

                Whenever he fights somebody prime he looks human. Lara, trout, plant, jacobs
                Their age is not Canelo’s fault.

                Fans hyped up Canelo vs Mayweather, Cotto, and GGG at those ages.

                It’s not Canelo’s fault that his critics and the media hyped up a 35 year old GGG. It is also not Canelo’s fault that no one would fight GGG and he had to step up and do what other superstars were not willing to do.

                Mayweather was old, but not totally done. He went on to beat two other tough fighters, Maidana and Pacquiao.

                Everyone was asking for Canelo vs Cotto, so idk why is it an issue now. Everyone asked for Canelo vs GGG, so idk why is it an issue now. As for Canelo vs Mayweather, this was actually a fight that Floyd critics said Floyd will duck and he will not fight such a young and strong fighter like Canelo.

                Mosley was just a stepping stone fight for young Canelo. Mosley was done.

                Dumb boxing fans hype up fighters/fights then nitpick stuff about the fight. This has been happening for a century.

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                • BodyBagz
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Stuntman Mike

                  That's completely up to him and how his body feels at weights ..some can move up in weight and some can't or feel sluggish...not everybody wants to put themselves at a disadvantage

                  People like manny and nelo showed they can move up in weight and obviously felt comfortable doing so and golovkin obviously didn't...

                  The guys still boxing the best of his division to ask someone to put themselves at a disadvantage at a weight they're not good at is asking a bit much regardless of tough talking quotes he may have said

                  What's next ...are we going to start asking nelo to tie his arms behind his back once he disposes of the few threats he has left or will we expect him to clear out cruiser then heavyweight
                  My point is, don't expect the world of one fighter while giving other fighters a pass.
                  Anyone who says Nelo is taking on weak opposition needs to kick themselves in their hypocritical neck.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by -Kev-

                    You can nitpick any boxer’s resume in the last 100 years. Almost every big fight can get dismantled. And almost any big fight can be pushed as a great win.
                    This goes way beyond nitpicking !!!!!!

                    See if you can find another so called ATG with such a decrepit string of opponents.

                    We both agree that Pac's WW+ resume is mediocre at best, and I'm being extremely gentle.

                    Holy shlt what a disgraceful line up. Even if you say Clottey, Rios, Lucas, Vargas, HORN, Algieri, Broner were ''prime'', who GAF ??? Talk about lining up a bunch of patsies !!!

                    I can tell you this much, had that been Mays list of opponents, Pac bois wouldn't stop reminding everyone how May picked the worst versions of guys to fight.

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                    • Hustle
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by QueensburyRules

                      - -Thanks for making it easy

                      1. GGG undefeated knockout artist Ring Champ
                      2. Cotto Ring Champ set the weight limit.
                      3. Kov Ring #1
                      4. Mosley not so far removed from Floydy/Manny bouts and still a rated fighter.
                      5. Floydy stipulated a 152 restriction as the only way he would make the fight. Canelo was blue on the scales as his promoter vacated the premises to check into a celebrity rehab clinic incommunicado with the outside world he didn't want to talk to.

                      U a Sissyboy Floydy Ellerbeewannabee?

                      Canelo has had 5 catchweight fights. But you only mention the floyd fight. See the hypocrisy.




                      Kovalev was knocked out 2 times in his last 5 going into the canelo fight at age 36.

                      The same ggg that still aint beat nobody til this day. Danny jacobs is his greatest win. Man please

                      Lastly, what does floyd or ellerbee have to do with canelo resume?

                      When you cant debate facts. You dudes deflect with insults.

                      Call a spade a spade.

                      Canelo won his first titles at 154 and 160 at catchweights of 150 and 157. Thats not my opinion. Thats a fact.

                      Canelo hall of fame opponents were all 35 and over. Thats not my opinion. Thats a fact.

                      But somehow i love ellerbee and floyd

                      Man gtfoh
                      Last edited by Hustle; 11-15-2021, 01:28 AM.

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