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  • #31
    As I said, only thing he will do is get beat up even worse. Yeah he can “try” to impose his size but for what? He fought safely and still go picked apart so now he will leave himself more exposed against someone that was beating him up when he was trying to limit the holes. These are the same people counting on fury leaning on usyk for 8 rounds to beat him, usyk isn’t an idiot and has great feet. Go look at late in that fight how he slides laterally and unloaded when Joshua tried grappling…
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    • #32
      Originally posted by BangEM View Post

      He was gassed by the 12th rd.

      Honestly, I don't think he took Usyk seriously until it was close to the fight hence he kept asking everyone dumb questions on fight night. Ty on YouTube was claiming AJ was all over Sheffield clubbing and he wasn't taking Usyk seriously, a few weeks to the fight. And Johnny Nelson also brought it up when he interviewed him a couple of days to the fight that people saw him out and about all over Sheffield and AJ quickly changed the topic. Johnny Nelson is from Sheffield and lives there and he many people saw AJ around and words were getting back to him, lol.

      That said, what anyone who's objective saw was AJ starting slow and backing off until the mid rds when he got a bit aggressive. He was losing when he backed off and dominated the fight whilst hurting Usyk multiple times when he got aggressive. Then he gassed out and by the 12th rd he was completely gassed. Fight was competitive until the championship rds when he gassed and anyone who says otherwise is an idiot.

      So if you're AJ - you'll go into the rematch doing what you're successful in doing in the first fight from the first rd with more pop in your punches and follow through. Then take the mid rds off to get a second wind whilst hugging and fighting dirty. And go into the championship rds a bit fresh. That was what he did against Pulev and it's not some rocket science.
      What you say is true he will have to hug and fight dirty its just when josh takes these mid rounds off to get a second wind this is where Usyk will be capitalising so that second wind doesn't come to fruition. USYK has double the gas tank of any Heavyweight baring none. As styles go this is a harder fight to win than against Fury. If he is to be victorious he has to knock USYK out. If Usyk hears the final bell he wins
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      • #33
        Originally posted by BangEM View Post

        He was gassed by the 12th rd.

        Honestly, I don't think he took Usyk seriously until it was close to the fight hence he kept asking everyone dumb questions on fight night. Ty on YouTube was claiming AJ was all over Sheffield clubbing and he wasn't taking Usyk seriously, a few weeks to the fight. And Johnny Nelson also brought it up when he interviewed him a couple of days to the fight that people saw him out and about all over Sheffield and AJ quickly changed the topic. Johnny Nelson is from Sheffield and lives there and he many people saw AJ around and words were getting back to him, lol.

        That said, what anyone who's objective saw was AJ starting slow and backing off until the mid rds when he got a bit aggressive. He was losing when he backed off and dominated the fight whilst hurting Usyk multiple times when he got aggressive. Then he gassed out and by the 12th rd he was completely gassed. Fight was competitive until the championship rds when he gassed and anyone who says otherwise is an idiot.

        So if you're AJ - you'll go into the rematch doing what you're successful in doing in the first fight from the first rd with more pop in your punches and follow through. Then take the mid rds off to get a second wind whilst hugging and fighting dirty. And go into the championship rds a bit fresh. That was what he did against Pulev and it's not some rocket science.
        Usyks right eye gets marked up in first round with Joshua's power forcing usyks own gloves into his face
        Usyk easily lands more and the more effective punches rounds 1-3 no need to go into details for the first 3 it's obvious

        Usyk 30 Joshua 27

        Round 4 usyk the most dominating round of the fight so far completely out lands Joshua 18 punches to 3 roughly give or take one either way

        Usyk 40 Joshua 36

        Round 5 Joshua lands the more effective punches and lands roughly 10 or so more than usyk..Joshua even does a subtle showboat near the 2 min mark his confidence is increasing but he excerts himself a lot to stay competitive with usyk punch for punch,its a tired show boat
        Joshua round

        Usyk 49 Joshua 46

        Round 6 Joshua lands 13 to usyks 7..Joshua lands two cracking right hands that you would give him the round for even if the punch stats were in usyks favour...noticed that it was the loosest Joshua has looked flowing his punches not loading up to time usyk better
        Joshua round

        Usyk 58 Joshua 56

        Round 7 usyk lands two beautiful overhead left hooks Joshua imposes his weight at the start and lands two crunching left hooks to the body and one right body shot
        22 punches landed by usyk to 11 for Joshua
        Usyk round

        Usyk 68 Joshua 65


        Round 8 Joshua Outlands 15 to 11 with 5 crunching body shots..usyk lands an overhand left once again and a straight left not much damage but clear and clean head snappers another round where if the punch stats were in usyks favour you'd give it to Joshua for the body shots they were devastating
        Clear Joshua round

        Usyk 77 Joshua 75

        Round 9 clear round to usyk I count 19 to usyk 12 to Joshua nothing of significance landed sheer amateur scoring and usyks output won the round
        Clear usyk round

        Usyk 87 Joshua 84

        Round 10 nothing of significance once again I counted 15 punches for usyk 14 for Joshua..
        Even round margining for error and taking away favoritism

        Usyk 97 Joshua 94

        Round 11 ...18 punches by usyk to Joshua's 14 ..more even than I remembered and Joshua was winning the first two mins with the better punches but usyk stepped up in the last min and clearly took the round
        usyk round

        Usyk 107 Joshua 104


        Round 12 usyk lands 39 punches to Joshua's 12..usyk lands the better punches and rocks Joshua.. along with the punch score landed I'd say it was an obviously dominating round and I'd give usyk a 10-8 round personally

        Usyk round clearly

        Usyk 117 Joshua 112



        Now ****em since you talk about this fight so much and claim aj dominated at times...we would love to see your round by round breakdown

        I have it 8 rounds to 3 with one draw round in favour of usyk ...not one dominating round to Joshua and 3 or 4 dominating rounds for usyk
        Last edited by Stuntman Mike; 11-01-2021, 10:22 AM.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Stuntman Mike View Post

          Usyks right eye gets marked up in first round with Joshua's power forcing usyks own gloves into his face
          Usyk easily lands more and the more effective punches rounds 1-3 no need to go into details for the first 3 it's obvious

          Usyk 30 Joshua 27

          Round 4 usyk the most dominating round of the fight so far completely out lands Joshua 18 punches to 3 roughly give or take one either way

          Usyk 40 Joshua 36

          Round 5 Joshua lands the more effective punches and lands roughly 10 or so more than usyk..Joshua even does a subtle showboat near the 2 min mark his confidence is increasing but he excerts himself a lot to stay competitive with usyk punch for punch,its a tired show boat
          Joshua round

          Usyk 49 Joshua 46

          Round 6 Joshua lands 13 to usyks 7..Joshua lands two cracking right hands that you would give him the round for even if the punch stats were in usyks favour...noticed that it was the loosest Joshua has looked flowing his punches not loading up to time usyk better
          Joshua round

          Usyk 58 Joshua 56

          Round 7 usyk lands two beautiful overhead left hooks Joshua imposes his weight at the start and lands two crunching left hooks to the body and one right body shot
          22 punches landed by usyk to 11 for Joshua
          Usyk round

          Usyk 68 Joshua 65


          Round 8 Joshua Outlands 15 to 11 with 5 crunching body shots..usyk lands an overhand left once again and a straight left not much damage but clear and clean head snappers another round where if the punch stats were in usyks favour you'd give it to Joshua for the body shots they were devastating
          Clear Joshua round

          Usyk 77 Joshua 75

          Round 9 clear round to usyk I count 19 to usyk 12 to Joshua nothing of significance landed sheer amateur scoring and usyks output won the round
          Clear usyk round

          Usyk 87 Joshua 84

          Round 10 nothing of significance once again I counted 15 punches for usyk 14 for Joshua..
          Even round margining for error and taking away favoritism

          Usyk 97 Joshua 94

          Round 11 ...18 punches by usyk to Joshua's 14 ..more even than I remembered and Joshua was winning the first two mins with the better punches but usyk stepped up in the last min and clearly took the round
          usyk round

          Usyk 107 Joshua 104


          Round 12 usyk lands 39 punches to Joshua's 12..usyk lands the better punches and rocks Joshua.. along with the punch score landed I'd say it was an obviously dominating round and I'd give usyk a 10-8 round personally

          Usyk round clearly

          Usyk 117 Joshua 112



          Now ****em since you talk about this fight so much and claim aj dominated at times...we would love to see your round by round breakdown

          I have it 8 rounds to 3 with one draw round in favour of usyk ...not one dominating round to Joshua and 3 or 4 dominating rounds for usyk
          The way you scored it.

          AJ won rd 2, 6, 7 and 8. Fight slipped away from him in the 9th rd.


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          • #35
            Originally posted by Noelanthony View Post

            What you say is true he will have to hug and fight dirty its just when josh takes these mid rounds off to get a second wind this is where Usyk will be capitalising so that second wind doesn't come to fruition. USYK has double the gas tank of any Heavyweight baring none. As styles go this is a harder fight to win than against Fury. If he is to be victorious he has to knock USYK out. If Usyk hears the final bell he wins
            Usyk isn't a power puncher - if he gets hit multiples times in the early rds with big shots and combos (not the jabbing AJ did in the first fight because the opportunities were there), he won't take too many risks when AJ is waiting for his end wind.

            Even the first fight was bizarre. In instances where AJ needed to hold and rest his weight on Usyk, he was the one pushing Usyk away. The most obvious one was when Usyk caught him flush on the chin in the 3rd rd or so with a straight left. He was meant to hold there but he pushed Usyk away, lol.

            A few tweaks and he'd be alright. Usyk isn't invincible. People said worse after the first Ruiz fight and swore by their mum AJ can't fight on the backfoot. And I told them he'll beat Ruiz comfortably in the rematch. But when Ruiz lost - Ruiz getting fat (when he has always been a fat guy and he put on weight for more power) has been the excuse, lol.

            AJ wins the rematch.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by BangEM View Post

              The way you scored it.

              AJ won rd 2, 6, 7 and 8. Fight slipped away from him in the 9th rd.

              Don't see how you could give Joshua the 2nd round

              Also you need to watch round 7 again..usyk landed double the amount of punches Joshua did and landed two big left hooks

              Joshua did land a couple good body shots but with usyk landing double the amount of punches and the two big lefts it's a no brainer usyk round

              And you missed Joshua clearly won the 5th round
              Last edited by Stuntman Mike; 11-01-2021, 11:53 AM.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Stuntman Mike View Post

                Don't see how you could give Joshua the 2nd round

                Also you need to watch round 7 again..usyk landed double the amount of punches Joshua did and landed two big left hooks

                Joshua did land a couple good body shots but with usyk landing double the amount of punches and the two big lefts it's a no brainer usyk round

                And you missed Joshua clesrly won the 5th round
                Even the Ukrainian judge scored the 2nd rd for AJ (I think).

                I guess he didn't watch the fight as well.

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                • #38
                  What he is describing is more of a do or die strategy. Yes, by being more aggressive Joshua will win rounds. I'm convinced Joshua can win any rounds he chooses to but he cannot sustain that level of activity for more than 4-5 rounds. If he can't finish Usyk, he finishes himself.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by 4truth View Post
                    What he is describing is more of a do or die strategy. Yes, by being more aggressive Joshua will win rounds. I'm convinced Joshua can win any rounds he chooses to but he cannot sustain that level of activity for more than 4-5 rounds. If he can't finish Usyk, he finishes himself.
                    Agreed.....I just see Joshua fighting a type of fight that he did against Ruiz in the first outing.

                    I like Joshua....but if he doesn't come ready to accept leather on that chin then he might get finished early in this rematch.....like somewhere between the 6th and 8th rounds.

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                    • #40
                      i keep forgetting Usyk has three belts - still hasnt settled in. Cant wait to see Usyk v Fury, unless their next two fights show something completely surprising, I can see Usyk beating Fury with not too much trouble. Fury is slow, hiw punches are not crisp, he'll get rocked and rocked during his mauling tactics.

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