Comments Thread For: Usyk Smiles at Joshua Promising To Be More Aggressive, Dangerous in Rematch

[JakeTheBoxer]

Well...Usyk isn't a stopping machine and he's struggled with aggressive fighters. I think if Joshua actually acts like a fighter, he gives Usyk all kinds of problems.

The only issue is that Joshua is apparently no longer willing to take punches to land them like Wilder or Fury.

Did you watch the first fight? Joshua was saved by the gong. So I really don`t know what are you talking about.

Joshua is no machine. maybe a quitting machine.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Did you watch the first fight? Joshua was saved by the gong. So I really don`t know what are you talking about.

Joshua is no machine. maybe a quitting machine.

First Ruiz fight?

That's Andy Ruiz. A guy known for hard punches. And frankly Ruiz got him with the wobble shot behind the ear like Fury got Wilder with.

Usyk is not.

That's the difference you're missing.

The version of Joshua that fought Grabomir beats Usyk.

The ONLY question is whether he can get that version of himself back.

[Boxing Logic]

I don’t think he pushed Usyk away because Usyk is better on the inside. AJ just doesn’t know how to clinch. It was the same against Ruiz and everyone else he has fought. It’s one of his flaws because he’s a big man that was trained to fight like a small man. Interestingly, he’s very good on the inside against any opponent and the few times he and Usyk were locked together on the inside - how won most of the exchanges.

Interesting point about “the house knows” because a lot of things that happened in that fight were uncharacteristic and bizarre. And Usyk who hardly ever talks has been talking a lot lately and there’s a video of him mocking AJ’s robotic high guard stance - reminiscent of a lot of things Ruiz did before the rematch.

I don’t think Wilder vs Usyk is feasible at this point. I see more of a push with Whyte for the WBC belt since I believe Fury will most likely drop the belt. And Hearn making the undisputed fight an all Matchroom affair.

Honestly man, it's all fake and choreographed. I have to say it's my opinion, which it is, but I dont have doubt when I tell you, and I have done the research and film analysis of the fights to be able to say that. Same with MMA. They pull the impact of the blows at the end of the blow, and angle them off either down, up, side to side, or diagonally up or down. They hit with the padding enough to create a big splash, the opponent snaps their head and acts, etc. They will also position the cameras so that ropes, the defensive gloves of the opponent being hit, the head of the fighter doing the hitting, the ref, etc etc, come in and out of your line of sight at perfect times to help create optical illusions. Example: You see the padding of the glove hit the opponent's face, then a glove blocks your view for a split second while the "punch" is angled off the face before the fist actually makes content, then you get the view back and you see the guy's face all messed up after snapping his head and grimacing, and your mind interprets it as a real punch in the moment, but it's not. But sometimes they will show you the punch with no optical illusion, just the punch gets pulled but there is still enough impact from the padding, because of how strong these guys are, to make a nice splash of water plus sweat plus the grease that they put all over the fighters' faces, to make it look somewhat real, but not if you pay attention and know what you're looking for.

You can just look at the Fury-Wilder III knockout combination to easily see how this is done. Left hook grazes off one side of Wilder's face, and right grazes off the other side. The arc of the punch is angled to correspond to the direction Wilder is angling his face at the exact same moment so that only the padding hits and nothing else. You can see the same exact trick used in Teofimo Lopez's knockout vs Mason Menard.

https://gfycat.com/whichaltruisticbasil

Note the, in my opinion, corny acting of Menard. Almost as corny as Tyson Fury getting up at the count of 9 in the first Wilder fight as a nice soap opera season 1 finale to his "miracle mental health comeback story." He fell down in the same pose as Christ on the cross, then resurrected at the very last second. Like seriously bro, it's WWE. But even if you think that could have just been the 1 in a million situation where that could really happen in a real fight, all you have to do is analyze the film of how the punches landed to see that it's fake. I've analyzed hundreds of boxing matches, they are all choreographed. No one is voluntarily taking hundreds of punches to the head 2 to 3 times a year in 2021, or even in modern history at all. There are other ways to make money. But it's not just boxing that is like this, so don't overestimate too much that the danger of boxing has a lot to do with it. There's a lot more to the situation, the most obvious being that it pays to know the outcome of sporting events ahead of time, considering that people bet on them. But there is still a lot more to the situation.

[Inspired]

this was Usyk training for the joshua fight before
https://vimeo.com/641721614

[Inspired]

[_Rexy_]

Don't see how you could give Joshua the 2nd round

Also you need to watch round 7 again..usyk landed double the amount of punches Joshua did and landed two big left hooks

Joshua did land a couple good body shots but with usyk landing double the amount of punches and the two big lefts it's a no brainer usyk round

And you missed Joshua clearly won the 5th round

You’re arguing with a literal ******.

[Stuntman Mike]

Honestly man, it's all fake and choreographed. I have to say it's my opinion, which it is, but I dont have doubt when I tell you, and I have done the research and film analysis of the fights to be able to say that. Same with MMA. They pull the impact of the blows at the end of the blow, and angle them off either down, up, side to side, or diagonally up or down. They hit with the padding enough to create a big splash, the opponent snaps their head and acts, etc. They will also position the cameras so that ropes, the defensive gloves of the opponent being hit, the head of the fighter doing the hitting, the ref, etc etc, come in and out of your line of sight at perfect times to help create optical illusions. Example: You see the padding of the glove hit the opponent's face, then a glove blocks your view for a split second while the "punch" is angled off the face before the fist actually makes content, then you get the view back and you see the guy's face all messed up after snapping his head and grimacing, and your mind interprets it as a real punch in the moment, but it's not. But sometimes they will show you the punch with no optical illusion, just the punch gets pulled but there is still enough impact from the padding, because of how strong these guys are, to make a nice splash of water plus sweat plus the grease that they put all over the fighters' faces, to make it look somewhat real, but not if you pay attention and know what you're looking for.

You can just look at the Fury-Wilder III knockout combination to easily see how this is done. Left hook grazes off one side of Wilder's face, and right grazes off the other side. The arc of the punch is angled to correspond to the direction Wilder is angling his face at the exact same moment so that only the padding hits and nothing else. You can see the same exact trick used in Teofimo Lopez's knockout vs Mason Menard.

https://gfycat.com/whichaltruisticbasil

Note the, in my opinion, corny acting of Menard. Almost as corny as Tyson Fury getting up at the count of 9 in the first Wilder fight as a nice soap opera season 1 finale to his "miracle mental health comeback story." He fell down in the same pose as Christ on the cross, then resurrected at the very last second. Like seriously bro, it's WWE. But even if you think that could have just been the 1 in a million situation where that could really happen in a real fight, all you have to do is analyze the film of how the punches landed to see that it's fake. I've analyzed hundreds of boxing matches, they are all choreographed. No one is voluntarily taking hundreds of punches to the head 2 to 3 times a year in 2021, or even in modern history at all. There are other ways to make money. But it's not just boxing that is like this, so don't overestimate too much that the danger of boxing has a lot to do with it. There's a lot more to the situation, the most obvious being that it pays to know the outcome of sporting events ahead of time, considering that people bet on them. But there is still a lot more to the situation.

Holy **** your head is mince meat what drugs are you on?

[BangEM]

Honestly man, it's all fake and choreographed. I have to say it's my opinion, which it is, but I dont have doubt when I tell you, and I have done the research and film analysis of the fights to be able to say that. Same with MMA. They pull the impact of the blows at the end of the blow, and angle them off either down, up, side to side, or diagonally up or down. They hit with the padding enough to create a big splash, the opponent snaps their head and acts, etc. They will also position the cameras so that ropes, the defensive gloves of the opponent being hit, the head of the fighter doing the hitting, the ref, etc etc, come in and out of your line of sight at perfect times to help create optical illusions. Example: You see the padding of the glove hit the opponent's face, then a glove blocks your view for a split second while the "punch" is angled off the face before the fist actually makes content, then you get the view back and you see the guy's face all messed up after snapping his head and grimacing, and your mind interprets it as a real punch in the moment, but it's not. But sometimes they will show you the punch with no optical illusion, just the punch gets pulled but there is still enough impact from the padding, because of how strong these guys are, to make a nice splash of water plus sweat plus the grease that they put all over the fighters' faces, to make it look somewhat real, but not if you pay attention and know what you're looking for.

You can just look at the Fury-Wilder III knockout combination to easily see how this is done. Left hook grazes off one side of Wilder's face, and right grazes off the other side. The arc of the punch is angled to correspond to the direction Wilder is angling his face at the exact same moment so that only the padding hits and nothing else. You can see the same exact trick used in Teofimo Lopez's knockout vs Mason Menard.

https://gfycat.com/whichaltruisticbasil

Note the, in my opinion, corny acting of Menard. Almost as corny as Tyson Fury getting up at the count of 9 in the first Wilder fight as a nice soap opera season 1 finale to his "miracle mental health comeback story." He fell down in the same pose as Christ on the cross, then resurrected at the very last second. Like seriously bro, it's WWE. But even if you think that could have just been the 1 in a million situation where that could really happen in a real fight, all you have to do is analyze the film of how the punches landed to see that it's fake. I've analyzed hundreds of boxing matches, they are all choreographed. No one is voluntarily taking hundreds of punches to the head 2 to 3 times a year in 2021, or even in modern history at all. There are other ways to make money. But it's not just boxing that is like this, so don't overestimate too much that the danger of boxing has a lot to do with it. There's a lot more to the situation, the most obvious being that it pays to know the outcome of sporting events ahead of time, considering that people bet on them. But there is still a lot more to the situation.

Interesting outlook.

The mafias that manipulated the results in boxing in the past never left - they're just more corporate these days hiding behind bookies.