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  • ShoulderRoll
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    #61
    The king of "let it marinate" is back to his usual shenanigans.

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    • Griever0730
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      #62
      Originally posted by pretty boy_

      Haymon/PBC stays living in your head rent free LMBAO....

      Thread has nothing to do with them at all yet here comes your whining ass spewing your trash.
      Go figure. Another PBC cheerleader with TMT's sack in their mouth and all over their profile. I responded to another TMT/PBC follower like you earlier in the comments who basically stated black fighters need to leave TR bc they don't have black fighters best interests. PBC does the same thing with Hispanic fighters that you PBC babies accuse TR of. How come you ain't get at him for stating the same thing I did?

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        #63
        Originally posted by Gunitsmith
        Nobody in the biz builds champions like Top Rank. From top to bottom they are the best run organization in boxing by far.
        Agreed, Just look at Loma after losing to Teo, he is now cherrypicking and fighting 22yr old Teofimo’s leftovers.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Griever0730

          Go figure. Another PBC cheerleader with TMT's sack in their mouth and all over their profile. I responded to another TMT/PBC follower like you earlier in the comments who basically stated black fighters need to leave TR bc they don't have black fighters best interests. PBC does the same thing with Hispanic fighters that you PBC babies accuse TR of. How come you ain't get at him for stating the same thing I did?
          I’ve seen this comment a lot. What exactly does PBC do to Hispanic fighters?

          In many cases pbc Gives them the most lucrative paydays of their career. Why would you have an issue with that?

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            #65
            Originally posted by genrick
            You gotta be an idiot to believe Valdez is being protected.
            Navarette is no laughing matter. Valdez if he survives
            is already soft by the time he gets to Shakira, who is
            taking on an already softened Berchelt.

            Shakira is the one being protected here. Come on doe.
            Of course he’s being protected. He should’ve fought Shakur the last fight.

            I thought you wanted the best to fight the best?

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            • rickJen
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              #66
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn

              Of course he’s being protected. He should’ve fought Shakur the last fight.

              I thought you wanted the best to fight the best?
              You gotta be an idiot to believe Navarette is an easy fight.
              While Shakira is fighting a Valdez left-over.
              Talk about who is being protected.
              You should be wondering why Berchelt vs Shakira wasn't made earlier.

              Navarette vs Shakira is the one to make. Best fighting Best.

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                #67
                Originally posted by genrick
                You gotta be an idiot to believe Navarette is an easy fight.
                While Shakira is fighting a Valdez left-over.
                Talk about who is being protected.
                You should be wondering why Berchelt vs Shakira wasn't made earlier.

                Navarette vs Shakira is the one to make. Best fighting Best.
                Where did I post anywhere that it was an easy fight?

                Shakur will body Valdez in a way that would remove him from being a headliner. That is why Arum is stalling that fight.

                So he instead will have Navarette move up. I like Navarette and am the only person who has him as. top 10 p4p boxer. That said we don’t know how he will perform at the next weight class.

                Shakur/ Berchelt wasn’t made because Shakur would’ve easily bodied him and taken away the Valdez/Berchelt payday.

                The fight to make next is Shakur v Valdez- the best fighting the best at 130.

                Navarette fighting Berchelt in his first fight at 130 to see how he performs at the weight on the same card. Then make Shakur/ navarette if both wins.

                Let’s stop holding Shakur back. There is no need for him to fight Berchelt right next. If that happens that is Arum milking a payday from the Mexican audience.

                If you’re serious about the best fighting the best, which I doubt, then you can’t justify Shakur/Valdez not happening next.

                Last edited by The Big Dunn; 11-02-2021, 09:17 AM.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                  I’ve seen this comment a lot. What exactly does PBC do to Hispanic fighters?

                  In many cases pbc Gives them the most lucrative paydays of their career. Why would you have an issue with that?
                  Yea. Lucrative paydays in fights they have little to no chance of winning or advancing their careers primarily against Haymon's marquee black fighters. The Charlos, Davis, Broner, etc. are always matched with Hispanic guys who are meant to lose to them. Just like Davis' next opponent. A young Hispanic on the rise, just like Romero, being fed to one of Haymon's favorites and basically send his career backwards. Nobody was expecting Romero to win, much less Cruz. They don't even try to hide it. Just look at those guys boxrecs.
                  Last edited by Griever0730; 11-03-2021, 01:33 AM.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Griever0730

                    Yea. Lucrative paydays in fights they have little to no chance of winning or advancing their careers primarily against Haymon's marquee black fighters. The Charlos, Davis, Broner, etc. are always matched with Hispanic guys who are meant to lose to them. Just like Davis' next opponent. A young Hispanic on the rise, just like Romero, being fed to one of Haymon's favorites and basically send his career backwards. Nobody was expecting Romero to win, much less Cruz. They don't even try to hide it. Just look at those guys boxrecs.
                    It sounds like the black guys are just better and that makes you angry.

                    The black guys are champions. The Hispanics are contenders. Are you suggesting they not be given an opportunity to win the title?

                    Barrios was bigger and undefeated. Cruz is a respected fighter who is in the top 11 of every sanctioning body at LW, including #2 in the IBF.

                    If Tank wins its because he’s good, not because Cruz is bad. Losing to Tank will not send his career backwards.

                    It’s like you’re making stuff up to force it into a narrative you created because you’re mad that lack boxers beat Hispanic ones.

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                    • Griever0730
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                      It sounds like the black guys are just better and that makes you angry.

                      The black guys are champions. The Hispanics are contenders. Are you suggesting they not be given an opportunity to win the title?

                      Barrios was bigger and undefeated. Cruz is a respected fighter who is in the top 11 of every sanctioning body at LW, including #2 in the IBF.

                      If Tank wins its because he’s good, not because Cruz is bad. Losing to Tank will not send his career backwards.

                      It’s like you’re making stuff up to force it into a narrative you created because you’re mad that lack boxers beat Hispanic ones.
                      Ain't nobody angry. Just stating the obvious. The fact alone of you stating the black guys are the. Hampions and Hispanics are just contrnder. Learly shows where your biased alliance lie towards. Never suggested at all that black fighters not be given title shots. That's just you making up a real silly narrative in your head to make it seem like it's something against black fighters. It has nothing to do them. It's their promotional outfit I'm speaking about. Haymon clearly looks out for them and puts them in the better positions than everyone else and it ain't hard to see either. Haymon is quick to pit Hispanics against one another and but never pits two black fighters against each other. Did you think Barrios, just bc he was tall and undefeated, was gonna beat Davis? Do you think Cruz has a real shot to beat Davis? Highly doubt it. The same folks that are knocking TR and GBP for supposedly being racist towards black fighters and stalling their careers are the same folks trying making excuses for Haymon for doing the same thing to Hispanic fighters. If TR or GBP fed their Hispanic stars nothing but black no-hopers, the outcry would outrageous. Show the same energy both ways.
                      Last edited by Griever0730; 11-03-2021, 06:35 PM.

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