Comments Thread For: Arum Eyes Valdez-Navarrete, Stevenson-Berchelt - Winners Fight Each Other

[MeanestNiceGuy]

Nobody in the biz builds champions like Top Rank. From top to bottom they are the best run organization in boxing by far.

Can't and wont argue with this! Regardless of what people have had to say about Bob over the years, he does his job and gives these guys opportunities to be great! I won't lie, I actually look at Bob's business model vs newer promoters because Top Rank has stood the test of time.

Can't wait to see what they come up with!

[_Rexy_]

These are two great fights. Not sure why people are mad…other than the fact people just like to *****

[maguirre]

I would head straight to the Shakur fight if I were Valdez. Going through a rampaging Navarette first doesn't make sense. That's why this whole "Valdez is being protected" thing is total hogwash. Makes me wonder how far some people's biases would go.

[Bronx23]

Don't have a problem with this mini-tournament. Will clear some fights out. Berchelt looked real bad in that Valdez fight, the weight cut looked like it affected him, his legs looked stiff and he didn't look steady. Maybe he can get a better weight cut in next go round.

I'm not sure Valdez gets past Navarette. But whoever wins that matchup should have some momentum going into a finale (likely against Shakur).

Berchelt also had a bad case of Covid which probably had an impact on his preparation/conditioning. I still Think he needs to move up though

[Bronx23]

Let's hope this greedy sack of **** put both on the same card and not space them out for 2 months. But I know that will never happen. He has to get every dollar he can

There’s no way this would be on the same card dude, all four of them have headlined their own flights multiple times. Both match us are main events it would have to be two separate cards.

[Bronx23]

I’m a little confused about what people are mad about cuz I didn’t see how Valdez is being protected in fighting Navarette. Yea Nav is coming up but he’s big af at 126 and he’s bigger than Valdez. & tbh I’d pick him to beat Valdez. & if he doesn’t beat him he gives Oscar a tough fight by dragging him into a war that puts him in worse shape for a Shakur fight. Oscar loses to Nav & Shakur imo.

Shakur beats Berchelt. Berchelt is coming off a beat down that he may never recover from & he probably shouldn’t even be fighting at 130 anymore. UD for Shakur or late stoppage. Kinda feel bad for Berchelt if has to fight Shakur straight away like that

Even if you disagree with my take. You can’t deny that those are two great matchups & then the winners fighting is an even better match up. Too much bxtchin.

I said before though Navarette vs Shakur is probably the best matchup to make. 60/40 fight in Shakurs favor for me, But Nav is unpredictable & doesnt stop coming. Neither guy has fought a guy like the other, that’s what makes the fight so interesting

[PBR Streetgang]

Berchelt also had a bad case of Covid which probably had an impact on his preparation/conditioning. I still Think he needs to move up though

Completely forgot about the covid. Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't like how his legs looked, way too stiff. He also reacted poorly to Valdez's punches, like he was buzzed by everything. To me, those point to a bad weight cut or outgrowing the weight limit (as opposed to being completely shot).

[pretty boy_]

All those guys you just named are the prime examples of selling their souls to get sacrificed by PBC. Mikey got fed to Spence and ain't been on PBC since. Mares was gonna get destroyed by Davis until his eye injury. All he does is commentating now. Then they replace Mares with LSC, who was doing nothing but fighting nobodies on undercards, to get destroyed by Davis. Ruiz was supposed to be a lamb chops for Joshua and he just wasn't having it the first time around. Almost nobody thought any of those guys would have any chance of winning those fights. Feel free to get those guys on the phone if you can so I can ask them tho. Lol

Haymon/PBC stays living in your head rent free LMBAO....

Thread has nothing to do with them at all yet here comes your whining ass spewing your trash.

[Dallas' 4 Eva]

Valdez/Navarette is a 50-50 fight. Bob really must be ready to cash Berchelt out to put him in there with Shakur after the beating he took his last fight.

[buddyr]

There’s no way this would be on the same card dude, all four of them have headlined their own flights multiple times. Both match us are main events it would have to be two separate cards.

none of these guys are really big stars. And everyone knows that Arum has some of the worst undercards in the history of boxing. Headlining a card means nothing. James Thunder used to headline cards on TNF. If Hopkins at his PEAK could fight Robert Allen a 3rd time on the undercard of DLH/Strum setting up their ppv fight, there is no reason these 4 can't fight on the same card to create a demand for the winner vs winner. I think Shields and Marshall are doing the same thing next...