Comments Thread For: Canelo: What Has Golovkin Done Since He Fought Me? Nothing!

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NO, it's not fine! It's horrible! Canelo beat Smith & Saunders @ 168! That's much different than what GGG has done! Then he chooses Murata over Andrade, even though Andrade is his stablemate! That's a ***** move! Your talking about "clearing up controversy?" Did GGG offer Dervy a rematch? NO! I'd rather defend Canelo, who is attempting to make history, than to defend GGG! GGG is irrelevant!

Don’t be dense. I’m not defending anything about ggg or his resume before or since. I’m just staying that his fights with canelo deserved a third because canelo hasn’t beaten ggg cleanly. End of story. I don’t give a shet about those lame fights with smith and Saunders. They’re both beneath ggg and deserved fights with canelo way less than ggg.

[Bronx2245]

Eh, people might have been saying that before he fought Ryder, but once he looked like **** in that fight, people weren't really singing that tune anymore, at least not as many. And I agree Golovkin hasn't done much or hasn't done enough to warrant a Canelo fight, but him being Derev is more deserving than anything Yildirim did, Saunders did, and arguably anything Plant has done, if we're being honest. If Plant didn't have the IBF title, would people really say he's deserving of a Canelo fight, based off the names he's fought?

But Plant does have the IBF title, and Canelo is going after it, after already taking the other 3! The talk around here was Canelo won't fight Callum because he was too big, too many size advantages, but Canelo did fight him and broke him! GGG was signed to MatchRoom! He didn't pursue Smith nor Saunders @ 168. Why? He chose Murata over Andrade, who is also signed to MatchRoom. Why? GGG is irrelevant! Canelo spoke the truth! Sometimes the truth hurts!

[Bronx2245]

Don’t be dense. I’m not defending anything about ggg or his resume before or since. I’m just staying that his fights with canelo deserved a third because canelo hasn’t beaten ggg cleanly. End of story. I don’t give a shet about those lame fights with smith and Saunders. They’re both beneath ggg and deserved fights with canelo way less than ggg.

Smith, Saunders, and Plant vs. Dervy, Szeremeta, and Murata! No contest! GGG is a 39 year old "has been!" Canelo is a 31 year old King, who has won titles at 154, 160, 168, and 175! I don't understand the hate!

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Smith, Saunders, and Plant vs. Dervy, Szeremeta, and Murata! No contest! GGG is a 39 year old "has been!" Canelo is a 31 year old King, who has won titles at 154, 160, 168, and 175! I don't understand the hate!

you’re arguing a completely different point that I don’t care about. Ggg > than anyone canelo has faced since the rematch. Yes or no?

[Superbee]

He can actually retire with the legacy of beating Canelobuterol twice....

[Bronx2245]

you’re arguing a completely different point that I don’t care about. Ggg > than anyone canelo has faced since the rematch. Yes or no?

No! Callum Smith, 6'3" w/ a 73" reach, 30-years old, and winner of the WBSS @ 168! That was better than fighting GGG for a 3rd time @ 160! Canelo should not try to come back to 160 for anybody, after going to 175! Roy Jones tried something similar, and it did not work! I hope Canelo beats Plant, makes history, and then fights Charlo or Benvidez @ 168! GGG needs to make himself relevant again! Fighting Murata is not getting it done! Andrade, Charlo, Benavidez, or Morrell Jr.! Choose one!

[rickJen]

Golovkin will forever be nursing a grudge to everyone involved in boxing.
He's a sore loser. He hasn't moved on.

[AKAcronym]

So it's alright to add Ndam to Callum's resume but not alright to add it to Murata's, even though he should have rightfully won the first time they fought and stopped him over a year and a half before Smith? That's really the only other name he has other than Groves and the Ryder fight he rightfully should have lost. People are wildly inconsistent when it comes to who people have fought as to when they're deserving of a big fight and whether or not having a belt is important. Knowing how a lot of these posters are, if it wasn't Canelo fighting these guys, they would be saying they aren't anything special and that it's only after he fought them that they suddenly praise them.

[Jab jab boom]

No! Callum Smith, 6'3" w/ a 73" reach, 30-years old, and winner of the WBSS @ 168! That was better than fighting GGG for a 3rd time @ 160! Canelo should not try to come back to 160 for anybody, after going to 175! Roy Jones tried something similar, and it did not work! I hope Canelo beats Plant, makes history, and then fights Charlo or Benvidez @ 168! GGG needs to make himself relevant again! Fighting Murata is not getting it done! Andrade, Charlo, Benavidez, or Morrell Jr.! Choose one!

Callum smith was an oversized goof with little skill whose biggest win was a washed up groves. No chance that was a better opponent than a 3rd fight with ggg. Now you’re saying just about anything to defend Canelo.

[Caxcan]

a lot of fan boy groupie logic. I can’t take you guys seriously because your defense of canelo is strictly based on him being Mexican. You wouldn’t be prostituting your pride and dignity as a boxing fan if he wasn’t. I never said Andrade was “the man to beat” but I pointed out the fact that canelo avoided him and declined an offer to fight him. That can’t be debated. Ggg played his cards right for the rematch because canelo got caught cheating. Everyone with any sense knew canelo lost the first fight and then got busted taking banned substance for the second. So canelo needed ggg more than ggg needed canelo. You also like to make up the narrative that ggg trainer agreed about the result. He agreed that it could’ve been a draw. You guys like to pretend that he felt canelo won. Guess what, there were 50 press row scorecards and only 2 thought canelo won that rematch. So stop pretending like it was decisive. He won a controversial split decision and then avoided a trilogy like a bi**h. Guess you just condone b***h moves. You lost your narrative when you tried to defend canelo not fighting ggg to clear up the controversy to face low level domestic level Uk talent when none of his opponents since ggg have generated as good of a fight, none have generated the same amount of interest in a fight and none have generated canelo the same amount of money as ggg has. So basically he’s been feasting on lesser opposition for less money. Be his fan boy that’s blinded by love if you want to, but stop trying to convince people smarter than you of anything different.

Like Canelo's resume needs to be defended from made up narratives when he's done more than most of the fighters around him combined irrespective of nationality. The fact that you single out his being Mexican as a negative says everything about your motivation, and the fact that you're trying to criticize him for fighting bigger and more proven champs instead of untested weak links shows you've lost the plot.

When GGG refused the rematch, it wasn't just a negotiation ploy. He was under the impression that the fight was dead but Canelo gave up the A side and backed up the brinks trunk to get him in the ring. And even after GGG getting an inflated payday, his Mexican style demands, and handpicking his own judge to favor the aggressor, when he found himself in the ring confronted by an aggressive Canelo looking to bring the fight to him, he suddenly decided to back up and try to jab his way out of the Mexican style fight he called for only to take more punishment. Abel was telling him he was losing in the corner and afterward looked as baffled as anyone over GGG failing to deliver on their gameplan and Canelo turning the tables on him. And yes, Abel himself said Canelo earned it while trying to make excuses for GGG:

“It’s two great fighters. For me to say that Golovkin wasn’t at his best would take away from Canelo. We’ve gotta give Canelo the credit, too, that he was able to do the things that he needed to do tonight. It doesn’t happen every night, but for me to tell you that Golovkin wasn’t at his best would be taking away from a great victory for Canelo.”

Trainers don't make that kind of admission unless they know their fighter lost. And again, what part of team GGG saying they turned down the trilogy because they'd rather fight scrubs do you not comprehend? If GGG didn't want the second fight all that badly when he was the betting favorite going in, it's no surprise to see him turn down the third after taking all that damage. GGG isn't trying to catch another L and take that kind of punishment again. He's not trying to face top fighters period when he's a guy used to getting praised for knocking out scrubs.