Caleb Plant will outbox Canelo. Scorecards will read 115-113 x2, 116-112

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  • billeau2
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    #31
    Originally posted by BodyBagz

    Nelo will probably give up the 1st 3 rds to see what Plant is about (unless Plant tries to prove a point).
    After the 3rd.......This shouldn't go 8.
    These boards were full of people who were angry at Wilder...angry because he dared to think he had a chance to beat Fury. He was holding up the works because the invincible Anthony Joshua was waiting for his clash with the Gypsy Titan...

    Well now... The invincible Joshua lost to a Ukranian guy who, with the right haircut looks like 'Lurch' of the Adam's family...
    And Wilder? He did not win, but he made a real good scrap of it! And some of the same people crying for his head now compare that fight to classic battles in the ring.

    How dare Wilder believe in himself?
    How dare Plant not treat Canelo like Thug Nelo does?

    Lets see how this plays out. The judges may be bought and paid for, but people will know if Plant succeeds in challenging Canelo...

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      #32
      Originally posted by BodyBagz

      Nelo has proven himself
      What has Plant done ?

      Should Plant win, it would be on the Buster beat Mike level upset (exaggeration)
      Nelo is a 10-1 fave.
      Plants won his fights... Thats the best he can have done. What more can one ask for? Actually nobody really knows how good Plant is because he is taking it to the next level.

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      • Thuglife Nelo
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        #33
        Originally posted by Gypshot

        I love how canelo haters change narratives as time passes. First Canelo lost a clear 115-113 fight then it was 116-112 then 117-111 to now its was a total shutout canelo didn’t even win a rd according to these clowns. Lol

        Those are the same jokes that believed Donaty wilders weak ass excuses.
        It is what it is, that’s the moment of the generation. Most that say “Canelo didn’t even win a round against Floyd” are predominantly black boxing fans. You hear them call in all the time on the Boxing Voice. There is truth though that these fans have acquired a suspension of disbelief that Floyd can’t lose rounds… then again an unorthodox fighter like Maidana can change the tone. Judges know that a boxer CAN do what Chino did granted if they have a chin, but they go by what is presented. It’s obvious Canelo was TRYING to box Floyd, but failed. That’s why fighters can change their strategy to simply fighting than pure elite fundamentals. That is what Ross saw.

        Personally I don’t think Ross was even bribed a bit. I think she quit the sport knowing that she wanted to give any type of swing round to Canelo. This even translated to the Lara fight. At some point fans have to acknowledge and give benefit of the doubt to the aggressor. That’s the thing, boxing fans forget that judges aren’t required to score the fight based on Olympic style (which predominantly tag-you’re-it-I-scored). Pro boxing is REAL FIGHTING, so interpretation is completely different.

        Canelo haters (this generations side fans of Floyd and PAC) always like to create fake narratives because they’re in limbo for their favorite fighter gone, so just cast doubt on someone new, and unfortunately a lot of his race based. They like to say that Canelo fans feel the Mexican won or that the DrAw was justified. I have acknowledged many times that Canelo lost fair and square to Floyd.

        The haters try their very best to never acknowledge the rematch for either Cotto or Canelo’s Lineal Middleweight titles. Cotto and Canelo punched significantly harder when they were heaviest. I never seen Floyd pushed off his feet like in the Canelo fight in other fights. So at 154-160 I’m sure Floyd made the fight decision to never fight him again. He was even scared that perhaps another Ross type would intervene even though he would have 2 other judges on his side. The odds got thinner with Floyd going northbound… for a guy who said Cotto and Canelo “were easy.”

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        • Gypshot
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          #34
          Originally posted by BigDramaShow!

          Canelo is a free agent

          Caleb Plant is on PBC

          use your brain and think for a little.
          Yup that’s one thing Canelo will have to worry about that he doesn’t get screwed over by PBC.

          Haymon wanted badly that 2 fight deal so hopefully he doesn’t try to rob canelo to get his two fight deal with a rematch.

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          • BodyBagz
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            #35
            Originally posted by billeau2

            These boards were full of people who were angry at Wilder...angry because he dared to think he had a chance to beat Fury. He was holding up the works because the invincible Anthony Joshua was waiting for his clash with the Gypsy Titan...

            Well now... The invincible Joshua lost to a Ukranian guy who, with the right haircut looks like 'Lurch' of the Adam's family...
            And Wilder? He did not win, but he made a real good scrap of it! And some of the same people crying for his head now compare that fight to classic battles in the ring.

            How dare Wilder believe in himself?
            How dare Plant not treat Canelo like Thug Nelo does?

            Lets see how this plays out. The judges may be bought and paid for, but people will know if Plant succeeds in challenging Canelo...
            We will see how this plays out. Almost losing to Trout and Lara is not a knock against Nelo (people make it sound as if Nelo CLEARLY lost those fights). Every guy is confident they will win. Some of those guys display of confidence comes off as fake. Just trying to psych themselves uponly to give a piss poor performance.

            If Plant had a decent win, I can see how Nelo might have problems.,

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            • Thuglife Nelo
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              #36
              Originally posted by billeau2
              but an authentic boxer puncher who has good mobility can test him...
              SRR would favor Canelo as an “authentic boxer” over Plant. Plant THINKS he is Mayweather. We seen Berto and Broner try to mimic Floyd too. Just because Plant is the biggest version of the mimicking doesn’t mean it translates well against a AN AUTHENTIC FIGHTER. What’s wrong with you soft kids? You guys have no idea what it’s like to spar. Even the best “pure boxers” can have off days and get swarmed by their regular nobody sparring partner.

              Caleb Plant is going to feel power that Uzcategui nor Truax could land. That’s not theory. That’s realistic fighting.

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              • BodyBagz
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                #37
                Originally posted by billeau2

                Plants won his fights... Thats the best he can have done. What more can one ask for? Actually nobody really knows how good Plant is because he is taking it to the next level.
                I agree

                A person can only beat those he fight. Still not a reason as to why Nelo should be wary.

                Plant is a ''champ'' and his time of fighting unknowns is over.

                Imho, I can't see him doing better than BHS.

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                • LeOoze
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Gypshot

                  I love how canelo haters change narratives as time passes. First Canelo lost a clear 115-113 fight then it was 116-112 then 117-111 to now its was a total shutout canelo didn’t even win a rd according to these clowns. Lol

                  Those are the same jokes that believed Donaty wilders weak ass excuses.
                  Canelo/Floyd was never 115-113, or even 116-112. It was a MINIMUM 117-111.

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                  • BodyBagz
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by LeOoze

                    Canelo/Floyd was never 115-113, or even 116-112. It was a MINIMUM 117-111.
                    Plant is no May

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo

                      Canelo in the first two rounds could’ve been swing rounds. The second half Canelo gained momentum trying to catch Floyd and Floyd become less impressive than the first half. So a judge can forget Olympic type of scoring or fleeing and base DAMAGE from the FIGHT. Boxing is also fighting not some let’s play nice point system. One card can only be controversial if affected the outcome of the fight. Even if Ross had Canelo winning, two other judges overruled by a stronger margin, not 115-113 x 2 vs Ross.


                      floyd caused more damage. canelo barely touched him. by any scoring basis, floyd won nearly every single round. you have to actively look to give canelo pitty rounds. which is way a draw was an embarrassment of a scorecard.

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