Is Wilder still the biggest puncher in history?

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  • BangEM
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    #21
    Originally posted by Sparked_26
    He's got to be up there because you'd be hard pressed to find someone who says Wilder is a good boxer, lol.

    Alas he has an Olympic Bronze medal, was a long reigning world champion whether or not you could pick the bones out of the opposition and to date as a pro only Fury has beaten him. Insane run for someone who can't box. He can't box. In relative terms at this level the man can't f.uckin box.

    Has there ever been anyone like that before and had that kind of success? It can only be because he turns the lights out and obviously has some sort of innate sense of closing distance quicker than anyone expects and sparking them.

    I mean even someone like Spzilka was looking world class in there vs Wilder until he got sent to the moon.

    Wilder is incredible. Absolute one off. We will never see the like again so I hope he sticks around a few more years if God willing he is healthy enough.

    I'd love to see him in there with Ruiz, Joyce, Chisora, and Whyte. Absolute fire match ups.

    I dunno what an equivalent would be. Like a terrible footballer (soccer) who scores every game regardless.
    Up there with who?

    Does Hunter hit like a mule as well because he sparked a bum with one punch the last time?

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      #22
      He's up there for sure. Too bad he never developed any other punch or combos to compliment that right hand.....he's just a less skilled HW version of Randall Bailey.

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        #23
        Originally posted by BangEM

        Up there with who?

        Does Hunter hit like a mule as well because he sparked a bum with one punch the last time?
        Who ever you want. He's the ultimate one trick pony

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          #24
          Originally posted by Sparked_26

          Who ever you want. He's the ultimate one trick pony
          Do you think Foreman, Lennox, Lyles, Shavers or even AJ would hit Fury that many times and not bust his face up?

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            #25
            Originally posted by BangEM

            Do you think Foreman, Lennox, Lyles, Shavers or even AJ would hit Fury that many times and not bust his face up?
            I think you misunderstand me, those people can box.

            Wilder is hamstrung by the fact he couldnt box eggs. By definition he has to be up there. He just has to be.

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              #26
              The only person I can compare Wilder to was a dude called Ezra Sellers who fought Carl Thompson and Johnny Nelson back to back. He couldnt box either. Touch of death power.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Sparked_26

                I think you misunderstand me, those people can box.

                Wilder is hamstrung by the fact he couldnt box eggs. By definition he has to be up there. He just has to be.
                But he landed on Fury almost 20 times despite his shortcomings as a boxer.

                And one would think a guy with power would mark Fury's face up with that volume and level of impact.

                So what happened?

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                  #28
                  Just because he didn't knock out Fury doesn't mean that his right hand doesn't hit like a nuke. He's knocked out every other fighter he's ever fought. They can't all have glass jaws. It's just that Fury is tough as balls and has freakish powers of recovery. Even then Wilder has 4 knockdowns on him in 3 fights and none of them were flash knockdowns. While Wilder's not the only guy to have ever knocked him down he is the only guy who's ever hurt him in any significant way. Any other heavyweight that gets hit by Wilder the way Fury got hit by him in round 4 probably doesn't make it out of the round.

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                    #29
                    Every proclaimed hardest puncher ever has hit opponents hard and flush without knocking them out cold. You don't hit every opponent as hard you can/want and fighters are not made out of paper mache, they fight for a living and can actually take hard punches to the face without getting knocked out. Boxing fans are simply not intelligent. Silly knee jerk reactions without thinking things through. Oh he hit that man and didn't KO him? He must not hit as hard as they say he does. Oh he got knocked out? He must have a glass chin instead of granite like they say. Oh he lost a fight? That must mean he was never good.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Sctrojan
                      He's up there for sure. Too bad he never developed any other punch or combos to compliment that right hand.....he's just a less skilled HW version of Randall Bailey.
                      Good point. He hits hard as heck with the right hand with his best shot. But if there’s all sorts of ways to analyze or write an algorithm. He may have one of the hardest rights but his average goes down since his hook is nowhere on the same level. I liked his jab to the body early, but it’s not like he has a devastating hook to the liver. Shavers had a nasty chopping right hand but that was by far his best shot. It was also nothing like Wilders long right, it travelled less distance and could surprise you as it dropped on you more than “bow and arrow” like wilders. Wilder hardest single punch is right up there. Further down as “best punchers” though.,

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