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  • Liondw
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    #41
    Great credit to both warriors, what a fight. I was wrong, Fury won, and survived being knocked out.

    Andre Ward said their was a long slow count for Fury, but yes, I think the better boxer won the fight.

    I suspect the extra muscle didn't help Wilder, maybe in clinches, but his punches were slower and he gassed early. Then again, even when he was lighter, as the first fight, Fury still won most of the rounds.

    What a fight, the trilogy is over though, no need for a fourth. I could see Fury vs Usyk, Wilder vs Joshua and Fury and Deontay don't fight on much longer.

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    • Jkp
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      #42
      Originally posted by factsarenice

      Joshua offered Wilder 100 million and Wilder turned it down to fight what he thought was an out of shape burned out junky. As it turned out, that out of shape junky was someone Wilder shouldn't have ***ed with.

      So far Wilder fought a long list of cans, a guy in his 40s and Fury, a guy that was supposed to be easy but instead beat his ass for 30 rounds and knocked him out twice. Wilder hasn't fought anyone as good as Ruiz, Wyhte, Parker, Usyk, or Joshua because he simply doesn't want to and never did.
      AJ turned down 50 million first.... blah blah blah...


      Wilder lost to the best. AJ isn't even top 5 anymore. . He lost to a cruiserweight and a fat midget Mexican. So no need to refer to yah fraud AJ anymore.

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      • Ry92
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        #43
        Great fight enought knowing fury is levels better than everyone good enough performance from wilder to stick around. Def both of em kills aj. Wilder always killed aj aj has no chin slower and less reach yet now fury has more power breaking opps down like such hell kill aj too. Id like see wilder stick round fight aj usyk loser get the win if aj and then springboard self back in title shot. Dude beats aj beats joyce n others just not fury

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        • snowdog
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          #44
          Originally posted by BodyBagz

          Unforgivable to get gassed before the fat guy did.
          Wilder is so sloppy, he makes Fury look like a ballerina.
          Not unforgivable, it was EXPECTED by a lot of people, including my good self. Whenever fighters put on weight or muscle their speed and stamina comes down. This is why the likes of Frank Bruno, Anthony Joshua and any other muscle-bound fighter ALWAYS struggle in the final stages of a fight.

          I was personally expecting that drop off to happen in the final third of the fight rather than halfway through though.

          But I don't think the result would have been any better if Wilder was the same weight he was in the first fight, Fury is just too good. Jay Deas only lined up that fight because they thought that it would be another easy win like the rest of Wilder's opponents.

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          • BodyBagz
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            #45
            Originally posted by snowdog

            Not unforgivable, it was EXPECTED by a lot of people, including my good self. Whenever fighters put on weight or muscle their speed and stamina comes down. This is why the likes of Frank Bruno, Anthony Joshua and any other muscle-bound fighter ALWAYS struggle in the final stages of a fight.

            I was personally expecting that drop off to happen in the final third of the fight rather than halfway through though.

            But I don't think the result would have been any better if Wilder was the same weight he was in the first fight, Fury is just too good. Jay Deas only lined up that fight because they thought that it would be another easy win like the rest of Wilder's opponents.
            20 months, working with a boxer and we get the same ol Wilder with a gut. The only dept Fury is better is between the ears.

            Brains > Brawn

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            • TMLT87
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              #46
              I feel bad for Wilder in a sense. His handlers obviously thought they were playing a masterstroke in 2018, they saw a fat, out of shape, pillow fisted cokehead who looked like **** against Seferi and Pianeta after spending almost 3 years at home eating cheeseburgers. They thought they were going to put the guy on the highlight reel and Wilder would be able to go around calling himself the real lineal champ etc etc. In the end they badly miscalculated things and its turned into a 3 year long nightmare for them. Getting ****** into the 2nd fight because they were heartened by the KDs in the first and thought Wilder would get 12 rounds to headhunt again without worrying about return fire, only to get battered 10x worse than the first fight, then the 3rd fight had to happen simply because there was no way Wilder could move on otherwise, and that ****ed up for him too. All of this from an attempted cherry pick designed to get them more leverage in the posturing and negotiations over the fight people really wanted ie him vs AJ. Of course AJ is probably ****ed now too with Usyk. This is why you dont marinate forever.
              Last edited by TMLT87; 10-10-2021, 04:49 AM.

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              • BKM-
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                #47
                Hopefully he does not change his tune in a couple of months and goes nuts again. These last 3 fights have been very painful for his ego to take.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by TMLT87
                  I feel bad for Wilder in a sense. His handlers obviously thought they were playing a masterstroke in 2018, they saw a fat, out of shape, pillow fisted cokehead who looked like **** against Seferi and Pianeta after spending almost 3 years at home eating cheeseburgers. They thought they were going to put the guy on the highlight reel and Wilder would be able to go around calling himself the real lineal champ etc etc. In the end they badly miscalculated things and its turned into a 3 year long nightmare for them. Getting ****** into the 2nd fight because they were heartened by the KDs in the first and thought Wilder would get 12 rounds to headhunt again without worrying about return fire, only to get battered 10x worse than the first fight, then the 3rd fight had to happen simply because there was no way Wilder could move on otherwise, and that ****ed up for him too. All of this from an attempted cherry pick designed to get them more leverage in the posturing and negotiations over the fight people really wanted ie him vs AJ. Of course AJ is probably ****ed now too with Usyk. This is why you dont marinate forever.

                  This has surprisingly worked out better for him actually. Tyson Fury is on his way to becoming an undefeated ATG and losing to him, while showing as much heart as he did and scoring so many KD's, is a better look for Wilder than getting KO'd by a lower level opponent.

                  The latter was bound to happen eventually, it's better that it was against Fury. His real regret should be rejecting that big fight against Joshua, in hindsight a very winnable fight for him.

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                  • vicious_uppercut
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                    #49
                    Props to both fighters!

                    Actually no, zero props to Wilder!! No amount of ‘heart’ is going to offset that post-second fight crap! Excuse after excuse, after excuse! Well, he’s had those excuses hammered out of him! The blueprint is now out there.

                    I’m not one to gloat but there’s a certain satisfaction knowing the Wilder fan girls are crying like babies!!



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                    • QballLobo
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                      #50
                      Styles make fights. Wilder KO’s 90% of the heavyweight division.
                      Fury is just that one guy built to withstand Wilder’s barrage. Taller and heavier but can still move and has a great chin.

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