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  • Robbie Barrett
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    #101
    Originally posted by deathofaclown

    It was much better than AJ v Wlad. Almost nothing happened for plenty of rounds between the early knockdowns and the finish in AJ v Wlad.
    What did Wilder do in rounds 5-11 Nothing, he lost every round. The overhype is ridiculous of this fight.

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    • Kris Silver
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      #102
      I'm an AJ fan and have since Wilder 2, favoured Fury over him, just. He is on the slide a bit and I blame him and his trainer for being less aggressive.

      Still only just as technically, boxing wise he is still levels above Wilder.

      Fury didn't have the greatest outing, perhaps that makes it all the more impressive, if his next fights he does.

      You take a huge dive from forum posters and casuals after a loss, and a huge goat exaggerations after a win. It's just what happens. Fury could easily have a couple losses on his record, just as AJ does, and Wilder should.

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        #103
        Originally posted by deathofaclown

        It was much better than AJ v Wlad. Almost nothing happened for plenty of rounds between the early knockdowns and the finish in AJ v Wlad.
        I'd probably take this over AJ/Wlad, but its been a while since ive watched the latter. To play devils advocate though, AJ/Wlad had the stadium atmosphere, a similar amount of volume, was much more evenly contested and both guys were in shape.

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        • deathofaclown
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          #104
          Originally posted by TMLT87

          I'd probably take this over AJ/Wlad, but its been a while since ive watched the latter. To play devils advocate though, AJ/Wlad had the stadium atmosphere, a similar amount of volume, was much more evenly contested and both guys were in shape.
          But I think there’s nothing really like a big Vegas heavyweight fight

          AJ sells out UK stadiums to casuals, which is fine, but he made one appearance in USA and got flattened. His fights don’t really move the needle outside of the UK either.

          I think there’s always something more special about two top heavyweights fighting in Vegas in a great fight that crosses over into popular culture across the world. It was the biggest thing happening in the world at that time.

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            #105
            Originally posted by deathofaclown

            But I think there’s nothing really like a big Vegas heavyweight fight

            AJ sells out UK stadiums to casuals, which is fine, but he made one appearance in USA and got flattened. His fights don’t really move the needle outside of the UK either.

            I think there’s always something more special about two top heavyweights fighting in Vegas in a great fight that crosses over into popular culture across the world. It was the biggest thing happening in the world at that time.
            Fury and Wilder are bigger in the US, but Joshua is bigger practically everywhere else. Boxing is very fragmented these days, the US boxing scene is not on anywhere near the same scale it used to be from a commercial and international following perspective, if anything the UFC has more of a following internationally now than any particular domestic boxing scene. Although I do agree that Fury/Wilder was probably bigger than any AJ fights, but a fight between AJ/Fury would be much bigger still even if it took place in the UK.
            Last edited by TMLT87; 10-12-2021, 06:09 AM.

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            • Ry92
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              #106
              Before seen fury new strength i gave aj the edge yet aj always been chinny fury alot stronger or more sound atleast with power shots add in reach size box ability fury beats aj now though aj still has best shot cause can box yet carry power n knows how to set up his shots

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                #107
                Originally posted by Boxing-1013

                Usyk is probably too small, but does have a chance. I could see him darting in and out for 12 rounds and winning a decision. Fury is probably too smart for him though.

                Wilder is on another level to AJ though. I don't want anyone to act like AJ is better than him or even on his level. Wilder KO's AJ 9 times out of 10.
                wilder is a bum and was a knockout waiting to happen...no skill , no jab , no left , no balance , no stamina and was getting beat by almost any fighter he made a defence against.
                duhaupas , ortiz , spilka even ****ing denzil Washington was out boxing him ffs lol

                Turned down his biggest ever payday with Joshua to fight fury which he admitted this year.
                Knocked the **** out several times by Wladimir klitchcko in sparring.

                Joshua would devour wilder and usyk would tie him up in knots.

                Your like DBN and Blue Bloood Sports absolutely deluded.

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by TMLT87

                  Wilder has fought two top HWs ever. One he beat (with difficulty), one he was destroyed by. How do you know that he wouldnt get wrecked by several other HWs too? personally I think if he'd have faced the guys AJ has he'd have 4-5 losses on his record now. Usyk would beat him too, Wlad would have KO'd him, and between Whyte, Parker, Povetkin and Ruiz he probably picks up at least one loss. You're essentially trying to give him credit for the fact that he was simply present in the ring with the guy you perceive to be no1, even though he was completely dominated.
                  You're inflating AJ's wins, and diminishing Wilder's. End of story. Usyk and Wlad may have beaten Wilder. None of those other guys would have been given more than a small chance.

                  I think AJ would have the 2+ losses to Fury, plus I don't know if he beats Ortiz twice.

                  Besides, comparing their resumes is not the point. They are overall a similar level, but Wilder is the worst matchup for AJ style wise. It's very obvious.

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by Vlad_
                    Lmao at the “p4p sauna champion” in your sig.
                    That was such a great story lol

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by TMLT87

                      It was a very good fight, arguably better than AJ/Wlad.

                      Neither of those fights should be in the running for greatest HW fight ever though. The overhyping of this fight is pretty weird, I think part of it is an attempt to save face for Wilder.
                      There is always overhyping of fights/fighters, good and bad, right after fights. It's always frustrating, I agree on that

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