AJ fans are absolutely pathetic

[TMLT87]

Wilder is also a lot better than AJ, there is no real doubt about that either.

Clearly there is a ton of doubt which is why most rankings have AJ ahead of him. What are you basing him being better on? his quality of wins? obviously not. The fact that he scored a few hail mary knockdowns that didnt lead anywhere, won about 5 rounds of a combined 30, got stopped twice and should realistically be 0-3 against Fury? okay but how often have you seen Fury hand out beatdowns like that to other people? Fury has fought bums other than Wilder since hes come back and hes looked like **** in most of those fights too.

You're calling those beatdowns a good performance for Wilder, but presumably you'll **** on AJs loss even though AJ actually outlanded Usyk in 5 rounds and the final punch stats were 123 vs 148 while Wilder landed 72 to 150 vs Fury.

[Boxing-1013]

What's my user name got to do with any of that? Don't try to push your insecurities on me guy, like I said 3G fans just can't wait to display their typical female tendencies

So who are your favorite fighters El Malo?

[Boxing-1013]

Clearly there is a ton of doubt which is why most rankings have AJ ahead of him. What are you basing him being better on? his quality of wins? obviously not. The fact that he scored a few hail mary knockdowns that didnt lead anywhere, won about 5 rounds of a combined 30, got stopped twice and should realistically be 0-3 against Fury? okay but how often have you seen Fury hand out beatdowns like that to other people? Fury has fought bums other than Wilder since hes come back and hes looked like **** in most of those fights too.

You're calling those beatdowns a good performance for Wilder, but presumably you'll **** on AJs loss even though AJ actually outlanded Usyk in 5 rounds and the final punch stats were 123 vs 148 while Wilder landed 72 to 150 vs Fury.

Fury is 6'9 275. He can deliver a beating to anyone. Remember those words when AJ faces Fury - surely you favor Fury in that fight, right?

AJ's wins are not that impressive. Wilder's 2 wins over Ortiz are as good as any 2 wins for AJ. AJ fights everything at home, with his refs and judges. His win over Wlad was pretty impressive but Wlad was 41 and 2 years inactive and coming off a loss. Not that impressive to be fair. Who is his next best win?

Wilder smoked Breazeale and AJ took 7 rounds to get him out. Wilder is a much more lethal puncher. AJ has worse recovery abilities when he is hit. They are both about as equal to land on the other one. You put all that together, and you'd have to be a fool to not favor Wilder.

It's clear to see why team AJ wanted no part of that fight.

[TMLT87]

Fury is 6'9 275. He can deliver a beating to anyone. Remember those words when AJ faces Fury - surely you favor Fury in that fight, right?

AJ's wins are not that impressive. Wilder's 2 wins over Ortiz are as good as any 2 wins for AJ. AJ fights everything at home, with his refs and judges. His win over Wlad was pretty impressive but Wlad was 41 and 2 years inactive and coming off a loss. Not that impressive to be fair. Who is his next best win?

Wilder smoked Breazeale and AJ took 7 rounds to get him out. Wilder is a much more lethal puncher. AJ has worse recovery abilities when he is hit. They are both about as equal to land on the other one. You put all that together, and you'd have to be a fool to not favor Wilder.

It's clear to see why team AJ wanted no part of that fight.

AJ fought Ruiz in America and then in Saudi Arabia. Wilder left the US 4 times in 45 fights and the best opponent he fought outside of the US was Audley ****ing Harrison a few months after David Price had sparked him out in the first round. You talk about AJ having his refs and judges when Wilder was gifted a draw in his first fight with Fury, which allowed him to get up to 10 title defences when it should have been 7.

As for Wilder beating Breazele faster than AJ did, out of the 3 opponents Wilder and AJ have in common AJ has beaten 2 of them faster than Wilder did.

Ortiz being on par with any of AJs wins is entirely baseless. You bring up Wlads age and conveniently leave out that Ortiz was officially 39/40 when Wilder fought him, but was suspected of lying about his age and being up to 10 years older. So you've got two past prime older fighters only one is considered to be among the most accomplished HWs ever while the other has done virtually jack ****. It just goes to show the bias though because if Wilder had knocked out Wlad theres no ****ing way you would be arguing that Ortiz is a better win. Not only is Wlad a better win than Ortiz but theres a strong case to be made that Wlad is Furys best win too, not Wilder.

Wlad, Povetkin, Parker, Whyte, Ruiz, Takam, Pulev, Martin is clearly a better top end of wins than Ortiz x2, Stiverne x2, Arreola, Szpilka, Washington, Duhaupas etc. Especially when you take into account that one guy has had 45 fights and one has had 26.

Lastly, of course I pick Fury over Joshua, I just find it funny that some people are attempting to use the brutal one sided beatdowns Fury has handed out to Wilder as some kind of evidence that Wilder would beat AJ, it makes zero sense and comes across like coping mechanism. All this blowing smoke up Wilders ass to salvage his reputation like he gave a good account of himself is hilarious, he got ****ing obliterated and showcased virtually no skills whatsoever.

[Boxing-1013]

AJ fought Ruiz in America and then in Saudi Arabia. Wilder left the US 4 times in 45 fights and the best opponent he fought outside of the US was Audley ****ing Harrison a few months after David Price had sparked him out in the first round. You talk about AJ having his refs and judges when Wilder was gifted a draw in his first fight with Fury, which allowed him to get up to 10 title defences when it should have been 7.

As for Wilder beating Breazele faster than AJ did, out of the 3 opponents Wilder and AJ have in common AJ has beaten 2 of them faster than Wilder did.

Ortiz being on par with any of AJs wins is entirely baseless. You bring up Wlads age and conveniently leave out that Ortiz was officially 39/40 when Wilder fought him, but was suspected of lying about his age and being up to 10 years older. So you've got two past prime older fighters only one is considered to be among the most accomplished HWs ever while the other has done virtually jack ****. It just goes to show the bias though because if Wilder had knocked out Wlad theres no ****ing way you would be arguing that Ortiz is a better win. Not only is Wlad a better win than Ortiz but theres a strong case to be made that Wlad is Furys best win too, not Wilder.

Wlad, Povetkin, Parker, Whyte, Ruiz, Takam, Pulev, Martin is clearly a better top end of wins than Ortiz x2, Stiverne x2, Arreola, Szpilka, Washington, Duhaupas etc. Especially when you take into account that one guy has had 45 fights and one has had 26.

Lastly, of course I pick Fury over Joshua, I just find it funny that some people are attempting to use the brutal one sided beatdowns Fury has handed out to Wilder as some kind of evidence that Wilder would beat AJ, it makes zero sense and comes across like coping mechanism. All this blowing smoke up Wilders ass to salvage his reputation like he gave a good account of himself is hilarious, he got ****ing obliterated and showcased virtually no skills whatsoever.

Wilder KD Fury twice. Fury didn't dominate the first 6 rounds. A draw was fine. People who swear Fury won that clean dksab.

Huh? Wilder KD Fury 4 times in about 30 rounds. That's impressive. Wilder showed things in those fights that lead me and a lot of others to believe, as we always have, that he would starch AJ in a fight. AJ and his team know it too, that's why they've never wanted that fight.

It's not even really subjective - when you look at AJ and look at Wilder, every sign tells you to pick Wilder if they fought. You would think AJ fans would climb off the hype train after those 2 rather embarrassing losses to Ruiz and Usyk, but I guess it's hard to admit you've been conned.

As I said, Wilder hit Fury with shots that would have put AJ down. To pretend otherwise is extremely dumb

[Boxing-1013]

Wilder KD Fury twice. Fury didn't dominate the first 6 rounds. A draw was fine. People who swear Fury won that clean dksab.

Huh? Wilder KD Fury 4 times in about 30 rounds. That's impressive. Wilder showed things in those fights that lead me and a lot of others to believe, as we always have, that he would starch AJ in a fight. AJ and his team know it too, that's why they've never wanted that fight.

It's not even really subjective - when you look at AJ and look at Wilder, every sign tells you to pick Wilder if they fought. You would think AJ fans would climb off the hype train after those 2 rather embarrassing losses to Ruiz and Usyk, but I guess it's hard to admit you've been conned.

As I said, Wilder hit Fury with shots that would have put AJ down. To pretend otherwise is extremely dumb

Btw - HW boxing is not really about 'skills' - it's about whether you can go 12 rounds with another guy, and not get KOed.

I can't wait for your comment if they do fight - 'Well AJ was outboxing him the whole time, but Wilder landed a lucky punch' lol

[cushtytaz]

They are deluded. The reality is that Hearn has made them believe Joshua is far better than what he is. People who actually know what they're talking about can see Hearn for what he is and see through all the bull**** and cherry picking opponents. After Ruiz and Usyk beat Joshua a lot more people started to see the truth. Eddie Hearn would talk up a sack of potatoes if it meant he was getting he was getting a few quid out of it

[TMLT87]

Wilder KD Fury twice. Fury didn't dominate the first 6 rounds. A draw was fine. People who swear Fury won that clean dksab.

Huh? Wilder KD Fury 4 times in about 30 rounds. That's impressive. Wilder showed things in those fights that lead me and a lot of others to believe, as we always have, that he would starch AJ in a fight. AJ and his team know it too, that's why they've never wanted that fight.

It's not even really subjective - when you look at AJ and look at Wilder, every sign tells you to pick Wilder if they fought. You would think AJ fans would climb off the hype train after those 2 rather embarrassing losses to Ruiz and Usyk, but I guess it's hard to admit you've been conned.

As I said, Wilder hit Fury with shots that would have put AJ down. To pretend otherwise is extremely dumb

The Ruiz loss absolutely was embarrassing, but unlike Wilder he was able to avenge it. Not sure how you consider the loss to Usyk embarrassing but not Wilders losses to Fury. AJ/Usyk was a closer fight.

4 KDs across 30 rounds...so what? we all know Wilder hits hard, its the equivalent of throwing **** until it sticks, once every blue moon after hitting air a million times he might actually land something.

As I said, Wilder hit Fury with shots that would have put AJ down. To pretend otherwise is extremely dumb

I'm not pretending otherwise. However its funny that in these hypothetical AJ/Wilder scenarios Joshua is for some reason an inanimate punching bag who doesnt throw anything himself, rather than on paper a much bigger puncher than Fury is supposed to be.

[Boxing-1013]

The Ruiz loss absolutely was embarrassing, but unlike Wilder he was able to avenge it. Not sure how you consider the loss to Usyk embarrassing but not Wilders losses to Fury. AJ/Usyk was a closer fight.

4 KDs across 30 rounds...so what? we all know Wilder hits hard, its the equivalent of throwing **** until it sticks, once every blue moon after hitting air a million times he might actually land something.



I'm not pretending otherwise. However its funny that in these hypothetical AJ/Wilder scenarios Joshua is for some reason an inanimate punching bag who doesnt throw anything himself, rather than on paper a much bigger puncher than Fury is supposed to be.

Don't you fuc,king compare losing to Andy Ruiz to Tyson Fury you bum. Wilder beat Ortiz in the 2nd fight as well, to clear up any issues there. Give credit where it is due. You backed the wrong horse, it happens.

I see you're preparing your excuse if Wilder and AJ ever fight lol

[TMLT87]

Don't you fuc,king compare losing to Andy Ruiz to Tyson Fury you bum.

Wilder has fought two top HWs ever. One he beat (with difficulty), one he was destroyed by. How do you know that he wouldnt get wrecked by several other HWs too? personally I think if he'd have faced the guys AJ has he'd have 4-5 losses on his record now. Usyk would beat him too, Wlad would have KO'd him, and between Whyte, Parker, Povetkin and Ruiz he probably picks up at least one loss. You're essentially trying to give him credit for the fact that he was simply present in the ring with the guy you perceive to be no1, even though he was completely dominated.