Wilder will NEVER be the same mentally and physically. He should retire ASAP...

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  • daggum
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    #21
    Originally posted by Boxing-1013

    Yeah, you AJ fans are really taking his recent loss well. Not as pathetic of a loss as he had vs Ruiz, but still a clearly tough loss for you guys to take.
    lying is the only way you can form an argument? you are terrible. you keep saying im an aj fan even though i said the opposite. horrible dishonesty. its true losing to fury isnt as bad as losing to ruiz but look at joshuas resume. look at wilders. its not close. joshua simply has beaten much better fighters. why are you making this about joshua though? wilder is the one that lost again. joshua loses as well but like i said he already has the resume to say good solid fighter but not a great fighter. wilder has no resume but what he does have is sycophantic fans who pretend hes an amazing fighter because...because why? you tell me? fury got flattened by a bunch of guys before like petkovic or whatever his name was. i guess petkovic is great too!

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      #22
      Originally posted by deathofaclown

      Stay busy for what?

      let’s be real, he isn’t the type of man that’s going to stay in boxing when it’s absolutely set in stone he can’t compete with the number 1. His ego wouldn’t allow it, and that’s ok, he’s been one of the top fighters. He has nothing to really prove or gain now dropping down a level for peanuts in comparison. I just can’t see him doing it.

      Besides, that was a horrible sustained beating, even if he dropped Fury. Fighters aren’t the same after that.
      lets be honest how can wilder get worse? loses every round in most of his fights. you have to question his entire career when you see things like scott taking a dive then later joining his team. thats straight up weird. then you get him ducking joshua for 100 million dollars to lost to fury for half that at best while saying he cherry picked a drugged up fat fury. mind bobbling as he would say.

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      • mike1010011
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        #23
        What he needs to do is sit down,and come to terms with the fact that he's been beaten 2-3 times (depending on wether you accept the draw in the first),by the same man. He needs to drop the excuses and give fury the credit that he deserves. The next aspect would be physical. He's gone through 2 fights worth of sustained beatings,and he finally got what he complained about in the second fight (going out of his shield). Who knows just how much this fight took out of him.

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        • Boxing-1013
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          #24
          Originally posted by daggum

          lying is the only way you can form an argument? you are terrible. you keep saying im an aj fan even though i said the opposite. horrible dishonesty. its true losing to fury isnt as bad as losing to ruiz but look at joshuas resume. look at wilders. its not close. joshua simply has beaten much better fighters. why are you making this about joshua though? wilder is the one that lost again. joshua loses as well but like i said he already has the resume to say good solid fighter but not a great fighter. wilder has no resume but what he does have is sycophantic fans who pretend hes an amazing fighter because...because why? you tell me? fury got flattened by a bunch of guys before like petkovic or whatever his name was. i guess petkovic is great too!
          AJ wouldn't fight Ortiz, so I wouldn't mention that one at all. All of AJ's fights were in his own backyard, and he hardly excelled in any of them. Takam Povetkin, Wlad etc were all like 40 years old too.

          To anyone with a bit of sense, he is clearly a very manufactured fighter. Wilder fighting Ortiz and KOing him twice proved he was top level. AJ losing to Ruiz and now Usyk, he isn't on that level.

          For someone who claims not to be an AJ fan, you certainly sound like an AJ fan.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Mmann2e

            That a useless endeavor and utterly pointless, he lost at 36 years old and now that it's over he's a gate keeper if wants to still be a pro. He can go do exhibition fighting if his heart desires it but he has nothing for the pro circuit. It's a combo of age, the fighting style, and the factors on how big is his name value if you beat him. And yes Tyson Fury the only one who beat but the same was for Kovalev and he should've left boxing years ago.
            He makes no money as a gatekeeper. And he'll fight hungry guys who are just as variable of beating him as big names.

            There's one huge fight left in him. I'd bet it will be against Joshua. That fight will sell.

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              #26
              I'm convinced that he's still suffering from PTSD after the beating he took in the second fight. His team should NEVER have put him in the ring last night. If you watch the fight again he was looking scared af whilst he was in the ring waiting for Fury to make his ring entrance.

              And the even worse beating he took last night will make his poor mental state even worse.

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                #27
                Originally posted by BodyBagz
                He's better than Chisora.
                My Mum is better than Chisora these days, and at 71 years old they're about the same age lol

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                • Mmann2e
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Toffee

                  He makes no money as a gatekeeper. And he'll fight hungry guys who are just as variable of beating him as big names.

                  There's one huge fight left in him. I'd bet it will be against Joshua. That fight will sell.
                  That depends if Fox and Al want to Deontay has no more control of the outside the ring portion of his career.

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                  • daggum
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Boxing-1013

                    AJ wouldn't fight Ortiz, so I wouldn't mention that one at all. All of AJ's fights were in his own backyard, and he hardly excelled in any of them. Takam Povetkin, Wlad etc were all like 40 years old too.

                    To anyone with a bit of sense, he is clearly a very manufactured fighter. Wilder fighting Ortiz and KOing him twice proved he was top level. AJ losing to Ruiz and now Usyk, he isn't on that level.

                    For someone who claims not to be an AJ fan, you certainly sound like an AJ fan.
                    but ortiz turned down the joshua fight

                    Hearn Says Luiz Ortiz Turned Down A $7 Million Offer To Fight


                    Luis Ortiz on why he turned down the Joshua fight

                    Hearn Says Luiz Ortiz Turned Down A $7 Million Offer To Fight

                    Luis Ortiz on why he turned down the Joshua fight
                    Hearn Says Luiz Ortiz Turned Down A $7 Million Offer To Fight


                    Hearn Says Luiz Ortiz Turned Down A $7 Million Offer To Fight

                    Hearn Says Luiz Ortiz Turned Down A $7 Million Offer To Fight


                    get it now liar? we all know you are lying. he wouldnt fight ortiz huh?

                    Hearn Says Luiz Ortiz Turned Down A $7 Million Offer To Fight

                    Hearn Says Luiz Ortiz Turned Down A $7 Million Offer To Fight



                    they were all in his backyard? not even true since he fought in the US and abroad. i think what you meant to say was wilders fights were all in his backyard.

                    joshua has beaten 8 top 10 fighters. wilder has beaten 1. how is wilder more proven? just dumb. like i said no substance and constant lies. and for what? to defend wilder...a bum.

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                    • Boxing-1013
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by daggum

                      but ortiz turned down the joshua fight

                      Hearn Says Luiz Ortiz Turned Down A $7 Million Offer To Fight


                      Luis Ortiz on why he turned down the Joshua fight

                      Hearn Says Luiz Ortiz Turned Down A $7 Million Offer To Fight

                      Luis Ortiz on why he turned down the Joshua fight
                      Hearn Says Luiz Ortiz Turned Down A $7 Million Offer To Fight


                      Hearn Says Luiz Ortiz Turned Down A $7 Million Offer To Fight

                      Hearn Says Luiz Ortiz Turned Down A $7 Million Offer To Fight


                      get it now liar? we all know you are lying. he wouldnt fight ortiz huh?

                      Hearn Says Luiz Ortiz Turned Down A $7 Million Offer To Fight

                      Hearn Says Luiz Ortiz Turned Down A $7 Million Offer To Fight



                      they were all in his backyard? not even true since he fought in the US and abroad. i think what you meant to say was wilders fights were all in his backyard.

                      joshua has beaten 8 top 10 fighters. wilder has beaten 1. how is wilder more proven? just dumb. like i said no substance and constant lies. and for what? to defend wilder...a bum.
                      What happened when he fought in the US? Lol great point daggum

                      Smoke and mirrors is all AJ's resume is. Bums like you mention 'top 10 wins' - it is all very carefully orchestrated. None of those wins are very impressive, besides Wlad, and Wlad was still 41 and inactive, and that win was in AJ's backyard, and was life and death.

                      Your boy is seriously overrated, deal with it. The sooner you realize it, the sooner you will be able to deal with him losing again, which will happen a lot from here on out.

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