Wilder will NEVER be the same mentally and physically. He should retire ASAP...

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  • JakeTheBoxer
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    #41
    Originally posted by hugh grant
    Wilder should comeback and fight dubois, or hrgovic, and/or joyce and whyte.
    If fury is best Of era wilder can still be furys no2
    I guess we have to see Fury and Wilder against other top guys to get the picture.

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    • BKM-
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      #42
      This is why boxing is so dangerous. There were so many moments where the fight could have been stopped but it was debatable, so the ref let it go on and he took more damage. Then when he got knocked down, he gets a standing 8 count to recover and continue getting damaged. in MMA he would have been taken down in those moments and finished on the ground, losing but preventing possibly 8 more rounds of damage.

      With only 2 fights he has already taken career altering damage. But he can recover from it significantly, the right thing he did last time was take a very long break. Lets say he fought Fury 6 months after their rematch? He probably would have been ko'd early.

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      • Mmann2e
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        #43
        Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer

        I guess we have to see Fury and Wilder against other top guys to get the picture.
        Wilder is finished his interview in the hospital proved it he knows at his best he can't get the job done.

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        • Mmann2e
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          #44
          Originally posted by BKM-
          This is why boxing is so dangerous. There were so many moments where the fight could have been stopped but it was debatable, so the ref let it go on and he took more damage. Then when he got knocked down, he gets a standing 8 count to recover and continue getting damaged. in MMA he would have been taken down in those moments and finished on the ground, losing but preventing possibly 8 more rounds of damage.

          With only 2 fights he has already taken career altering damage. But he can recover from it significantly, the right thing he did last time was take a very long break. Lets say he fought Fury 6 months after their rematch? He probably would have been ko'd early.
          He'll be 37 if he takes a long break and he's not going to be able to make 220 since the reason for the weight gain is his metabolism is slower and he doesn't have ways to get the punch to land.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Mmann2e

            He'll be 37 if he takes a long break and he's not going to be able to make 220 since the reason for the weight gain is his metabolism is slower and he doesn't have ways to get the punch to land.
            Oh he will have plenty of ways to get the punch to land depending on his next matchup. Not everybody can do what Fury did to him believe it or not. And even Fury took right hands that were hard enough to KO pretty much any other HW right now.

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            • Mmann2e
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              #46
              Originally posted by BKM-

              Oh he will have plenty of ways to get the punch to land depending on his next matchup. Not everybody can do what Fury did to him believe it or not. And even Fury took right hands that were hard enough to KO pretty much any other HW right now.
              He's done because he gets off quicker but he's going to be slower against an Usyk or against a Sanchez. If he returns at 37 you have to get networks who see his three losses to Fury as a detriment. Yes he fought better but only Fury, Joshua or Usyk are profitable and it's questionable on the latter two. The energy he used to get here was because he wanted to beat Fury, he's failed and if you thought he was terrible in promoting his last fight with Fury, he'll be even worse. Finally look at the quotes the man knows he can't do his "goal" of unifying the division and his scorched earth comments destroyed his likability and even with his amazing attempt he's not a good villain. All of these say to me maybe you get one last major fight before it's time to close the book on Wilder.
              Last edited by Mmann2e; 10-10-2021, 08:21 AM.

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              • Stephankotyk
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                #47
                I would not call it brutal beatdown. Wilder has serious conditioning issues. Basically after 4th round he was 1 punch away from ko hardly standing. He was so tense and fired up with his punches that it just took too much from him. If he work on a pace, stamina and conditioning, i can see him having another title shot in 2-3 fights.
                He needs to work on hist mental readiness 100%

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                  #48
                  There isn't much else he can do to improve coming into his late 30's. He should absolutely continue though. A fight with AJ is a 50/50, i would personally love to see more than ever and they would easily fill a 100k stadium for it so millions to be made there. Would also like to see a match up between him and any of Whyte/Ruiz/Usyk/Joyce/Dubois.... if he wants to go there is a good 3 years worth of big fights out there for him.

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                  • sargo
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                    #49
                    That’s up to him. Greats have been KO’d and still came back to do bigger things.

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                    • Mmann2e
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Bum squad
                      There isn't much else he can do to improve coming into his late 30's. He should absolutely continue though. A fight with AJ is a 50/50, i would personally love to see more than ever and they would easily fill a 100k stadium for it so millions to be made there. Would also like to see a match up between him and any of Whyte/Ruiz/Usyk/Joyce/Dubois.... if he wants to go there is a good 3 years worth of big fights out there for him.
                      All those fighters would have to wait and sit on their hands and all the networks and promoters would need to not find their next new heavyweight

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