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  • #31
    Usyk is technically by far the best heavyweight, he has everything but strength. But Usyk is still growing, the last match was 221 pounds, he gained about 4-5 pounds a year. In 2 years he will have about 230 pounds and he will knock them all out.
    I wouldn’t underestimate Joshua, he has a knockout punch like Wilder, but he’s technically better than Wilder. Usyk and Joshua are Olympic champions, such should not be underestimated.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Noelanthony View Post

      That MCCRACKEN gives him the wrong tactics he is too calm in general. Even when its panic stations he is nonchalant. Joshua looks to him like a father figure. comes back to the corner and asks him how did he do.... He needs tough love. A trainer to tell him " you aint shi8t if you dont let them bombs go".

      I Feel AJ needs something , he lacks heart when the going gets tough or a sound plan B. His coach at the very least is supposed to equip him with that.....I agree re-instilling him with a killer instinct is no given. However i feel a new environment will be better than Mccracken
      At a certain point in a guys career, a guy is gonna do what he wants. Maybe a train will get credit if their guy fights a lower level time waster opponent. A trainer is lucky if the boss decides to to road work much less go for a KO. I mean, at the end of the day, the fighter pays the trainer.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by denium View Post

        Fury was the underdog his entire career, people thought McDermott would chin him in the rematch. Casuals like BodyBagz don't have a clue.
        Which means, Fury is overachiever anyway.

        When I saw him being dropped by Pajkic I never felt like he could have ever become something.

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        • #34
          I just can’t see how Usyk beats Fury. He’s great but beating the limited and mentally weak AJ does not mean that he stands a chance against the 280 pound master boxer. Plus Fury will throw every dirty trick in the book at him, trust me, that’s the key to defeating Usyk. That’s what has troubled him, similar to his minime Loma.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by heavyweight62 View Post
            Usyk is technically by far the best heavyweight, he has everything but strength. But Usyk is still growing, the last match was 221 pounds, he gained about 4-5 pounds a year. In 2 years he will have about 230 pounds and he will knock them all out.
            I wouldn’t underestimate Joshua, he has a knockout punch like Wilder, but he’s technically better than Wilder. Usyk and Joshua are Olympic champions, such should not be underestimated.
            34 year old Usyk is "still growing" eh?

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            • #36
              Originally posted by denium View Post
              He couldn't stop a timid Joshua but stops Tyson Fury?

              No chance.
              Just looking at your sig man in slow mo Wilder head almost did a 360 scary stuff.

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              • #37
                I'm sure as you can be about anything in HW boxing that Fury vs Usyk would go the distance. Both have good chins, good survival instincts, big hearts and crazy stamina for the division. Neither is a one punch KO monster.

                Fury wouldn't try to outbox a smaller, faster southpaw with skills at least as advanced as his own. He would walk Usyk down and try to impose his size and strength advantages by smothering Usyk's punches, roughing him up and tiring him out. Like I said, I think it would go the distance, and the attitudes of the referee and judges to Fury's dirty fighting would be important in determining the outcome.

                60/40 Fury, imo.
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                • #38
                  I cant see him hurting Fury but Wilder is possible.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by denium View Post

                    34 year old Usyk is "still growing" eh?


                    I think he means growing into the division, the same way Holyfield did, by gradually gaining size and strength, fight by fight.

                    But unlike Holyfield, Usyk would't be able to resort to PEDs. He's probably already as heavy and strong as he he can be naturally, without slowing down and losing his stamina.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post
                      Wilder was out of his feet from the second round and he was still able to knock down Fury twice. It took Fury nearly 11 rounds to finish the job while he had nearly dead man in front of him.

                      Fury won clearly, but he looked in terrible shape. Usyk is much better boxer than Wilder ever could be, with 100 times better skillset.

                      I believe Usyk can KO both guys.

                      Again, I like Fury, I respect Wilder as a warrior, but it seems to me Fury is not serious about this sport, again. Usyk is different level animal than Wilder.
                      Usyk should be light work for Fury. Fury has similar boxing skill, just bigger, longer reach and more punch power.
                      Last edited by cushtytaz; 10-11-2021, 05:56 AM.

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