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  • #21
    Originally posted by Szef View Post

    Idk what the odds were, but at the time Price was being looked at as the guy who'd beat both klitschkos. Fury was just some clumsy loud mouth who punched himself in the face. Everybody was convinced Price would ice him.
    So MAYBE Fury was picked against a couple of times prior to Wilder (he was a slight dog vs Chisora). Meaningless.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post
      Wilder was out of his feet from the second round and he was still able to knock down Fury twice. It took Fury nearly 11 rounds to finish the job while he had nearly dead man in front of him.

      Fury won clearly, but he looked in terrible shape. Usyk is much better boxer than Wilder ever could be, with 100 times better skillset.

      I believe Usyk can KO both guys.

      Again, I like Fury, I respect Wilder as a warrior, but it seems to me Fury is not serious about this sport, again. Usyk is different level animal than Wilder.
      Usyk hasn't stopped anyone both as a heavyweight and cruiserweight. He has crazy skills but cmon. Although i do believe he beats WILDER fairly easy

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      • #23
        Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post

        So MAYBE Fury was picked against a couple of times prior to Wilder (he was a slight dog vs Chisora). Meaningless.
        No, not maybe. He was picked against in fights that mattered.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Szef View Post

          No, not maybe. He was picked against in fights that mattered.
          There's only been 3 of them (1 vs shot Wlad) and he was the favorite in Wilder 3.

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          • #25
            I will be honest too he beats my boy AJ up in the rematch also. To candid AJ loses to all the heavyweights unless he changes his trainer. Mccracken has turned him into a big softie.... His killer instinct is still on the canvas in MSG

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Noelanthony View Post
              I will be honest too he beats my boy AJ up in the rematch also. To candid AJ loses to all the heavyweights unless he changes his trainer. Mccracken has turned him into a big softie.... His killer instinct is still on the canvas in MSG
              How does a trainer RE-instill a killer instinct that has been removed ? How many times have we heard corner men tell their guy he has to go for the KO only for him to come out cautious ?

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              • #27
                He couldn't stop a timid Joshua but stops Tyson Fury?

                No chance.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post

                  How does a trainer RE-instill a killer instinct that has been removed ? How many times have we heard corner men tell their guy he has to go for the KO only for him to come out cautious ?
                  That MCCRACKEN gives him the wrong tactics he is too calm in general. Even when its panic stations he is nonchalant. Joshua looks to him like a father figure. comes back to the corner and asks him how did he do.... He needs tough love. A trainer to tell him " you aint shi8t if you dont let them bombs go".

                  I Feel AJ needs something , he lacks heart when the going gets tough or a sound plan B. His coach at the very least is supposed to equip him with that.....I agree re-instilling him with a killer instinct is no given. However i feel a new environment will be better than Mccracken
                  kushking kushking likes this.

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                  • #29
                    6 inches in height, 3 and a half stone in weight, and a reach disadvantage.

                    Fury wouldnt go into that fight to box with Usyk. If Usyk does win he would have a GOAT claim.

                    I'm pretty sure he'll get knocked out though

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Szef View Post

                      Fury was definitely the underdog vs Price and Haye. Some people also thought he wouldn't get past Cunningham, myself included.
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                      Fury was the underdog his entire career, people thought McDermott would chin him in the rematch. Casuals like BodyBagz don't have a clue.

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