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  • #71


    It wasn't even the best fight on Saturday - that accolade went to Cheeseman vs Williamson.
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    • #72
      I think it was the 8th round where Wilder landed a really clean shot that looked on the button but Fury didn't even flinch. His only hope was an early knockout and when that didn't happen it was over. Just because he was standing up doesn't mean he was in it. He was unable to land a punch that had any effect after round 6. Great heart and all but he was savagely beat down.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Toffee View Post

        Understood.

        But Wilder didn't have a punch in him. His best in Rd 6 was already not good enough to hurt Fury. He didn't even have a puncher's chance.

        Rd 4 was his chance. He landed a shot and it wasn't enough.

        In any case, were talking about this potentially being the best fight of all time. It wasn't, it was great fun watching a puncher land his one shot and otherwise get thoroughly beaten up.
        I agree that the round he uncorked was his Waterloo, and as a rule I despise trainers that the are not constantly giving technical, simple things their fighter should do... thats their job imo, but there are exceptions to every rule. Telling Wilder to push Fury back was bad advice imo. I would have told him simply abandon all things, focus on keeping away from Fury, get your wind and fire rights...hit him everywhere, I don't care if its the arms... Just fire away then get out of their rinse and repeat. He didn't have a punch in him because he did not pace himself. I don't think he wins this anyway lol, but imo this was his best chance after hitting Fury and having some success.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

          I agree that the round he uncorked was his Waterloo, and as a rule I despise trainers that the are not constantly giving technical, simple things their fighter should do... thats their job imo, but there are exceptions to every rule. Telling Wilder to push Fury back was bad advice imo. I would have told him simply abandon all things, focus on keeping away from Fury, get your wind and fire rights...hit him everywhere, I don't care if its the arms... Just fire away then get out of their rinse and repeat. He didn't have a punch in him because he did not pace himself. I don't think he wins this anyway lol, but imo this was his best chance after hitting Fury and having some success.
          I said during the fight that I wondered whether Wilder should just punch him in the balls. He was never going to win on points anyway and a few minutes spell might have made the difference. Give him one last chance to throw a couple of big shots.

          Yes it's cheating. But he didn't need to brawl, he needed space and oxygen.
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          • #75
            Originally posted by The plunger man View Post
            yeah bill but Louis was technically sound ...ok a bit flat footed yes but his timing was outstanding , punch technique and placement 2nd to none and his ability to finish someone only rivalled by Ray Leonard , he also had a devastating left hook, was economical and held his technique all through the fight.
            wilder is an appalling heavyweight in almost every department in boxing except punch.
            I honestly think you could take a NBA basketball player ...kidnap him and lock him away for two years inside a boxing gym and after 2 years he would emerge far superior in terms of skill than wilder.
            wilder is that bad
            Marciano was likewise, appalling in every department, except he had a V12 engine! and could hit. Yes Wilder has no technical understanding... you can't push Fury back (that was his corner telling him lol shakes head) But he can do what he used to do which imo might have given him some more success: stay away from the opponent, get wind back and fire away...hit Fury everywhere, arms, legs, does not matter. Wilder can't sustain his attacks like Marciano could, but he is able to stay away get is wind.

            I do think that ultimate the puncher's rule still applies to Wilder. It goes without saying if he had more technical ability he would be better.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by Pac=Duran View Post
              This was Marquez vs Pac 4 tier

              Sweet Jesus.

              WILDER IS AN IRON JAWED WARRIOR

              So is Fury. God damn that was insane
              It's up there with Maidana/Broner, Castillo/Corrales, Tyson/Holyfield, Ali/Frazier, JMM/Manny.

              No question.

              We witnessed history. A classic.

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              • #77
                I don’t think so , personally I liked Wlad vs A.J far better with harder shots thrown and far better boxing but the fight was a reminder the division is head and shoulders the best it’s been fir awhile. Many other great fights always take place but up unless it’s fir a belt fans usually don’t pay attention,I mean is this fight really better then the Chisora vs Whyte fights ? It’s arguable . What about Kownacki vs Arreola ? Yes these fights had less on the line but as a fight itself I’ll take them over this weeks one .

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

                  Marciano was likewise, appalling in every department, except he had a V12 engine! and could hit. Yes Wilder has no technical understanding... you can't push Fury back (that was his corner telling him lol shakes head) But he can do what he used to do which imo might have given him some more success: stay away from the opponent, get wind back and fire away...hit Fury everywhere, arms, legs, does not matter. Wilder can't sustain his attacks like Marciano could, but he is able to stay away get is wind.

                  I do think that ultimate the puncher's rule still applies to Wilder. It goes without saying if he had more technical ability he would be better.
                  That’s what his corner was telling him? I would’ve told him to get on his bike a little. Get some space and throw jabs and straights to his torso section from the outside. Try to slow him down. Avoid clinches cuz I really think that’s what zapped his energy in the second and third fight.
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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by billeau2 View Post

                    Marciano was likewise, appalling in every department, except he had a V12 engine! and could hit. Yes Wilder has no technical understanding... you can't push Fury back (that was his corner telling him lol shakes head) But he can do what he used to do which imo might have given him some more success: stay away from the opponent, get wind back and fire away...hit Fury everywhere, arms, legs, does not matter. Wilder can't sustain his attacks like Marciano could, but he is able to stay away get is wind.

                    I do think that ultimate the puncher's rule still applies to Wilder. It goes without saying if he had more technical ability he would be better.
                    it those 2 years he should of developed a sound strong jab , a better inside game and able to throw more than just 1 telegraphed shot ......He was still terrible going backwards an had no defence , even his stamina left after 4 rounds and he seemed drunk and unsteady ...but again even with Marciano his style suited him , he had a crouching methodical style where he just kept walking you down and had real power in every shot he threw.......with Marciano he literally broke your soul because you could not get him out of there....like Michael Myers
                    Wilder was an Olympian so he must have been taught the basics of boxing in the past and yet when you look at him every thing he does it looks awkward and ungainly ........it was because he was so long and rangy he could get away with it against the journeymen but as he moved up in class it started to really show but by then the rot had set in and went unchecked.
                    malik Scott has no knowledge when it comes to training a fighter and working out in your basement is not a correct environment to correct your bad habits and wilder developed those as his career went on.......now it’s to late

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by Pac=Duran View Post
                      Wilder was ALWAYS in it though.

                      He earned my respect as a fighter. As a man he sucks though.

                      Holy**** that was shome fight, and some effort from both guys
                      You are right.

                      Even during all of Fury’s success throughout the fight. You still had that feeling Wilder was only one punch away.

                      They put on a heck of a show. One of the best heavyweight fights in a LONG TIME.

                      And yes in the end Wilder showed his POS side with his unsportsmanlike respect toward Fury.
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