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  • #41
    Originally posted by Lefty0616 View Post
    I really believe race comes into play when it comes to talks of Fury being an all-time heavyweight great. He looks terrible in the ring, just like most of today's heavyweights. Who has he beaten? Who is on his resume? It's almost a given in most people's minds that Fury is going to run through Wilder. I'm sorry but as badly as Fury beat Wilder in their second fight, I see Wilder knocking Fury out in fight 3. And me being Black, could I be slightly biased? Possibly.....But when I look at Fury VS Wilder 1, as much as it was established that Fury is a better boxer (which is not saying much), he got dropped twice - and on one occasion looked like he was done. And when I look at Fury VS Wilder 2, Wilder looked off, and his equilibrium was terribly off - he was bleeding from both ears. I don't think he is gonna be in a bad way like in fight number 2. I believe he is going to find a way to touch up Fury again. If Fury can handle Wilder's wild punches, beat Joshua, beat Ruiz, and then beat Usyk.....then maybe there can be discussions about him being an all-time great heavyweight. Until then, there's an Ali, a Tyson, a Holyfield, a Marciano, and a Louis that's ranked higher.
    Agree with absolutely EVERYTHING here (except needing to beat Ruiz). I think Fury should win but I have a small bet on a Wilder KO

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Susie View Post

      Think I prefer a depressed coke addict compared to a ****** racialist
      your view on his stance is irrelevant to the type of comeback it was.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Smash View Post
        good to know we have 2 legit all time greats right in our era now, teo and tyson, we are blessed with this era of boxing












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        Smash Smash likes this.

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        • #44
          I love how the ATG thing gets blood flowing. I think that most would agree that Lennox is an ATG. His resume is intense. He also is close enough in this era to the size and style of fighting at this point. So, how would Fury do against Lewis? Fury right now and Lewis in his prime. From my perspective, Fury would have to dig orders of magnitude deeper than he ever has in that scrap (Lennox has dug that deep with Vitali and showed what he had) and I for one would love to watch it.
          I know many answers would be definitive here, but one thing we know about the HW division is that our predictions can be very wrong very often!
          Last edited by Cyborg Fangerloo; 10-08-2021, 04:56 PM.

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          • #45
            Fury is the only man to ever eat an uppercut from Fury clean and remain standing.
            P to the J P to the J likes this.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Lefty0616 View Post
              I really believe race comes into play when it comes to talks of Fury being an all-time heavyweight great. He looks terrible in the ring, just like most of today's heavyweights. Who has he beaten? Who is on his resume? It's almost a given in most people's minds that Fury is going to run through Wilder. I'm sorry but as badly as Fury beat Wilder in their second fight, I see Wilder knocking Fury out in fight 3. And me being Black, could I be slightly biased? Possibly.....But when I look at Fury VS Wilder 1, as much as it was established that Fury is a better boxer (which is not saying much), he got dropped twice - and on one occasion looked like he was done. And when I look at Fury VS Wilder 2, Wilder looked off, and his equilibrium was terribly off - he was bleeding from both ears. I don't think he is gonna be in a bad way like in fight number 2. I believe he is going to find a way to touch up Fury again. If Fury can handle Wilder's wild punches, beat Joshua, beat Ruiz, and then beat Usyk.....then maybe there can be discussions about him being an all-time great heavyweight. Until then, there's an Ali, a Tyson, a Holyfield, a Marciano, and a Louis that's ranked higher.





              first you pulled the race card, then you admitted that you are biased because you are black

              you should have just said you hate the fat pommie cvnt and left it there

              btw, Lennox Lewis is black







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              Last edited by aboutfkntime; 10-08-2021, 09:40 PM.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by joe strong View Post
                Lennox was one of my favourites of all time but his only real weakness was arrogance. It cost him dearly against McCall & especially against Rahman. He had no business losing to Rahman & he totally obliterated him in the rematch. He never bothered to train & was too busy mingling with Oceans 11cast & showed up in South Africa a week before the fight. The McCall KO he forever claimed it was a lucky punch then finally gave McCall credit a few years ago & said it was a solid shot that got him.

                I remember on an HBO telecast him & Max Kellerman were discussing his fight with Mirovic. Lennox said “He trained for 2 years to fight me” & Max replied “How long was your training camp?” Lennox just laughed…
                Didn’t know that last bit at all. Wow. He definitely didn’t train for the Vitali fight.

                Man could box, though; near certain he’d clean up at HW today.

                My problem is that he not only knows this, he effectively asserts it. Comes across as desperate and a bit undignified.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post






                  first you pulled the race care, then you admitted that you are biased because you are black

                  you should have just said you hate the fat pommie cvnt and left it there

                  btw, Lennox Lewis is black







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                  I'm showing you how the race card works. We all can be a little biased at times. With that being said, no I would not have said what you suggested I say. I don't use slurs, I try to call it as I see it. Fury is a good fighter. But he's not an all time great, yet (may never achieve that status). I use my eyes - mostly. And based on what I see, Fury VS Wilder 3 is up for grabs.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
                    well Ali was sentenced to 5 yrs but overall wasn’t allowed to box for 3. Not sure what you mean by he wasn’t the only one anti Vietnam. Fury isn’t the only one who has battled depression and drug use. I like fury and appreciate his comeback but Ali losing his livelihood hood and what he stood for was more significant to me and coming back to face guys like Frazier and foreman for me hold more weight than facing wilder and Otto wallin. Separately we can also talk about Leonard retiring from boxing due to an eye injury and coming back after 3 years and going straight into a fight with arguably the best fighter in the world at that time in hagler and beating him.
                    Because that's what he was "sentenced" for.... I thought that was pretty self explanatory.
                    Of course Fury isn't the only one who's battled depression and drug use but the main killer of young men is Suicide and it's rarely ever spoken about and men's issue in general for that matter and who cares if you think him facing Foreman or Frazier is more significant.
                    The history books will say Wilder has the more significant reign then either of them, more defences and was one of the most prolific punchers in his era and the foreman fight was further along in Ali's comeback then Fury currently is.
                    Fury might go for undisputed next assuming he wins tomorrow so if we're comparing like for like they'll of achieved almost exactly the same if that happens but Fury was for all intent and purposes robbed in the 1st fight with Wilder.
                    Last edited by Boro; 10-08-2021, 06:16 PM.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Boro View Post

                      Because that's what he was "sentenced" for.... I thought that was pretty self explanatory.
                      Of course Fury isn't the only one who's battled depression and drug use but the main killer of young men is Suicide and it's rarely ever spoken about and men's issue in general for that matter and who cares if you think him facing Foreman or Frazier is more significant.
                      The history books will say Wilder has the more significant reign then either of them, more defences and was one of the most prolific punchers in his era and the foreman fight was further along in Ali's comeback then Fury currently is.
                      Fury might go for undisputed next assuming he wins tomorrow so if we're comparing like for like they'll of achieved almost exactly the same if that happens but Fury was for all intent and purposes robbed in the 1st fight with Wilder.
                      you trying to make it seem that wilder is anywhere near what Frazier and foreman were leads me to know that I can’t take your opinion seriously. You just love fury and will spit anything to fit your narrative.

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