Comments Thread For: Lennox Lewis Breaks Down Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Widler Trilogy Fight

[Boro]

you trying to make it seem that wilder is anywhere near what Frazier and foreman were leads me to know that I can’t take your opinion seriously. You just love fury and will spit anything to fit your narrative.

No I'm not Wilder is dog but the history books won't reflect that sadly, obviously and I couldn't care less about Fury either but be objective they would've of accomplished almost the exact same thing, you're the one trying to spin a narrative not me... but your clear biases aren't allowing you to be objective.

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No I'm not Wilder is dog but the history books won't reflect that sadly, obviously and I couldn't care less about Fury either but be objective they would've of accomplished almost the exact same thing, you're the one trying to spin a narrative not me... but your clear biases aren't allowing you to be objective.

Not sure what history books you’re referencing but nobody with any sense would have wilder anywhere near Frazier and foreman. That’s like putting broner on par with Duran because broner won titles in 4 divisions. Nobody cares about that on paper nonsense.

[Boro]

Not sure what history books you’re referencing but nobody with any sense would have wilder anywhere near Frazier and foreman. That’s like putting broner on par with Duran because broner won titles in 4 divisions. Nobody cares about that on paper nonsense.

I've not once compared Wilder to Foreman or Frazier and wouldn't, I've compared the achievements it's self which still holds true... you're arguing a point that I haven't made, quite frankly it's mind blowing that this has occurred...

[Ravensfan]

best comeback story in boxing history? Ever heard of Ali, who went to prison to stand up for a meaningful cause and then came back to become world champion again by beating other all time greats? A bit more significant than becoming an obese depressed coke addict and coming back to beat Wilder.

Ali was in boxing jail but he never served a day behind bars in a real prison or jail.

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I've not once compared Wilder to Foreman or Frazier and wouldn't, I've compared the achievements it's self which still holds true... you're arguing a point that I haven't made, quite frankly it's mind blowing that this has occurred...

yeah you referenced an imaginary history book and made it seem like this non existent book would have wilder on par with them. That’s what’s mind blowing.

[Ravensfan]

I really believe race comes into play when it comes to talks of Fury being an all-time heavyweight great. He looks terrible in the ring, just like most of today's heavyweights. Who has he beaten? Who is on his resume? It's almost a given in most people's minds that Fury is going to run through Wilder. I'm sorry but as badly as Fury beat Wilder in their second fight, I see Wilder knocking Fury out in fight 3. And me being Black, could I be slightly biased? Possibly.....But when I look at Fury VS Wilder 1, as much as it was established that Fury is a better boxer (which is not saying much), he got dropped twice - and on one occasion looked like he was done. And when I look at Fury VS Wilder 2, Wilder looked off, and his equilibrium was terribly off - he was bleeding from both ears. I don't think he is gonna be in a bad way like in fight number 2. I believe he is going to find a way to touch up Fury again. If Fury can handle Wilder's wild punches, beat Joshua, beat Ruiz, and then beat Usyk.....then maybe there can be discussions about him being an all-time great heavyweight. Until then, there's an Ali, a Tyson, a Holyfield, a Marciano, and a Louis that's ranked higher.

Why would race play a part? Fury's fans are the only ones stating that he is an ATG and no one else agrees with them regardless of what color they happen to be.

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Okay feel free to deny the truth of Wilders reign, it still doesn't make him to equivalent to them as a fighter, you're extremely dumb if you think that's automatically implied somehow...
I didn't know I was dealing with a ******, my bad.

Here is exactly what you said you inbred ret@rd
”who cares if you think him facing Foreman or Frazier is more significant.
The history books will say Wilder has the more significant reign then either ” (by the way it’s “than” not “then”. That should’ve been clue enough for me to know that I was dealing with someone with sh** for brains.

Now the topic being discussed was your absurd and delusional belief that fury has the best comeback story “in the history of boxing “. You got called on it and now that you feel ******, you’re trying to backtrack and reference an imaginary history book to back your point. Unfortunately for you, people who actually know boxing and aren’t ball guzzling groupies like you, know that the actual quality of an opponent and facing all time greats is more valuable when assessing someone’s legacy or their comeback than something like number of title defenses against trash to mediocre opposition at best, which is what wilders reign was. So try to spin the narrative to try and maintain some dignity, but you’ve already been exposed as a complete imbecile who made a ****** comment.

[Boro]

Here is exactly what you said you inbred ret@rd
”who cares if you think him facing Foreman or Frazier is more significant.
The history books will say Wilder has the more significant reign then either ” (by the way it’s “than” not “then”. That should’ve been clue enough for me to know that I was dealing with someone with sh** for brains.

Now the topic being discussed was your absurd and delusional belief that fury has the best comeback story “in the history of boxing “. You got called on it and now that you feel ******, you’re trying to backtrack and reference an imaginary history book to back your point. Unfortunately for you, people who actually know boxing and aren’t ball guzzling groupies like you, know that the actual quality of an opponent and facing all time greats is more valuable when assessing someone’s legacy or their comeback than something like number of title defenses against trash to mediocre opposition at best, which is what wilders reign was. So try to spin the narrative to try and maintain some dignity, but you’ve already been exposed as a complete imbecile who made a ****** comment.

Who ****ing cares about grammar/spelling, you ignoramus. His reign was longer and more defences then both Foremans and Fraziers combined and the only only decent name between them that was a successful defence was Norton that is a FACT it's not debatable, you can call me a ball guzzler all you like but the facts are the facts...

"Unfortunately" for you the history books you've so casually dismissed are very real and easily looked upon and dismiss your absolutely ret@rded idea that Frazier or Foremans reign was more significant then Wilders at the time of Alis comeback.

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Who ****ing cares about grammar/spelling, you ignoramus. His reign was longer and more defences then both Foremans and Fraziers combined and the only only decent name between them that was a successful defence was Norton that is a FACT it's not debatable, you can call me a ball guzzler all you like but the facts are the facts...

"Unfortunately" for you the history books you've so casually dismissed are very real and easily looked upon and dismiss your absolutely ret@rded idea that Frazier or Foremans reign was more significant then Wilders at the time of Alis comeback.

You calling someone an ignoramus in order to defend your horrible grammar is quite ironic, wouldn’t you say?

On one end you’re saying you’re not comparing Wilder to Foreman and Frazier but in the same breath you’re doing everything you can to talk him up above them by bringing up his number of defenses. So which is it? This isn’t about semantics, this about the adversity they’ve overcome followed up by what they accomplished afterwards. Your original argument is about the better comeback, which you’ve conveniently tried to deviate from. You think anyone will give a flying f**k about Wilders defenses when he didn’t face or beat even one opponent that’s considered elite, never mind hall of fame? Get the fk outta here and learn more about boxing before spewing your dumb ass logic about “the greatest comeback in the history of boxing”. Ali had a greater comeback story, Foreman had a greater comeback story, Leonard had a greater comeback story, pazienza had a greater comeback story, Daniel Jacobs had a greater comeback story. Fury’s comeback story is one of a ped user who became addicted to coke and got fat and sad and then came back to beat one of the most unskilled heavyweight champions in boxing history who also punched pretty hard. Stop wetting your panties over it. I swear, inbreeding must be pretty popular over in the Uk huh? You guys say some truly dumb sh** and then shamelessly try to defend it.

[aboutfkntime]

I'm showing you how the race card works. We all can be a little biased at times. With that being said, no I would not have said what you suggested I say. I don't use slurs, I try to call it as I see it. Fury is a good fighter. But he's not an all time great, yet (may never achieve that status). I use my eyes - mostly. And based on what I see, Fury VS Wilder 3 is up for grabs.

Lennox Lewis said it, so that obviously had nothing to do with race

he may be favoring a fellow brit

Fury is my guy, I told everyone he was the best heavyweight on the planet years ago... but he is not a ATG

Wilder > Usyk > Joshua... and we can revisit that discussion

no offense meant, just sick of people pulling the race card

people who back a fighter because he is white, or black... are ridiculous imo, and are likely just casual fans

most boxing guys go with style, or they may not like a particular fighter... and who cares what the casuals think






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