Anderson Silva is proving that boxers can survive in UFC/MMA

[dj Ramos]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oihc7Rmfp0U

Don't mistake ****** gameplan, with what would happen 99% of time... Look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOSEw5C_nVM (this is Akiyamas full contact fighting debut, and he was 50 lbs lighter than Botha).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMzRsxSUiR4 (Nishijima, who has better boxing resume than Anderson by far) got owned by a brawler in a MMA fight.

And Anderson has elite ground game together with great stand-up, boxer just has a stand-up (and limited stand-up without kicks, knees, elbows, clinch wrestling).

Boxer has punchers chance, and nothing else... Just like any other guy who fights, there is always a chance he connects.

But to think that boxers can be successfull just with boxing is ignorance.

lol i never said boxers can be successful. but if a boxer gets a nice hit in chances of a mma fighter doin down is high. thats how a mma fighter beats a boxer take him down and dont give him range to ko you.

[RL_GMA]

Sorry if this is wrong section but basically im saying that Mayweather, Pacquiao, De La Hoya, ... hell any dam boxer can survive in MMA if they good enuff ya dig

Anderson Silva is a good boxer, but compared to the best in the boxing world he basically cant tie their own shoes. And watch this fight, none of it was on the ground, all of the fight was toe to toe and just like a boxing match with some kicks too. And you all think Mayweather wouldnt last in this sport....I seriously beg the differ!

It's all about gameplan. If a Boxer (only knowing Boxing) goes in against an MMA fighter, do you really think they're going to try standing toe to toe? You also gotta think about kicks, knees, elbows, etc, things Boxers don't train to defend. yea, Silva boxed Griffin, but that doesn't mean every boxer goes in and does the same exact thing.

I think you're looking at it through a Boxing fan's perspective to make it seem that if one MMA uses boxing skills, then all Boxers can. Do you think Floyd would fight a pure brawler and brawl with him? Of course not...Same goes for any boxer fighting an MMA fighter. If you've watched any MMA matches, you'll see the Grappler always tries to take down the striker if they have that type of advantage over them. Just like Boxing, there is a strategy, not just 2 dudes swinging away.

[dj Ramos]

STFU you mma clown. stay where you belong...the MMA lounge and GTFO of here you boxing hate. you dont belong on a boxing forum. so suck it!

dude its not that serious there both sports people like baseball and soccer or football and basketball nothing wrong with likeing boxing and mma...

[Soda Popinski]

You two are very ****** human beings.

If you put any boxer in there, with the exception of Kermit Cintron who was an elite HS wrestler, they will get taken down to the mat and beaten until they are a) near death; or b) saved by the third man in the ring.

You don't know **** about the sport, have never insomuch as trained a single day in your pathetic lives, and approach the ignorance level of NASCAR cheapseat fans.

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Agree with this. Forrest Griffin is a stand and **** type fighter, that's all he's ever been. He's gotten much better at it over the years, but that's his MO, end of story. Silva is the most technical striker in MMA hands down, so what you guys are watching is an MMA version of Mayweather vs. Gatti. The minute someone picked up PBF and put him on his head, the fight would be over, and make no mistake about it that's exactly what would happen.

Cintron may survive for a bit longer than a few other guys, but even he would give up his back or an arm and get submitted in the 1st round, or he'd show little to no ground and pound defense and would get his head elbowed inside out.

[RL_GMA]

co sign. i hate movies like Never Back Down that make boxers look so ****ing ******. If the boxer is skilled enough like mayweather or ali i dont give a **** who the hell you are....the boxer WILL WIN!

Did and do Ali and Floyd know how to block kicks or knees? What if they get taken down? Do they know how to sprawl or get out of submissions?

Dude, it's 2 different sports. I don't care if you think Floyd's the greatest fighter ever, he steps in a cage with a top MMA guy who's well rounded, he's going to need to do a lot more than shoulder roll punches to survive.

Plus, considering Floyd hasnt even been that aggressive in the last few years, you expect him to jump in a cage with one of these guys and be able to just KO people? C'mon...

[Sudo]

lol i never said boxers can be successful. but if a boxer gets a nice hit in chances of a mma fighter doin down is high. thats how a mma fighter beats a boxer take him down and dont give him range to ko you.

Everyone that get's a nice hit with four once gloves can knock someone down.

Boxing is part of MMA, if you are skillfull boxer, it will give you advantage over most fighters, but you need to have wrestling and ground game to make your boxing effective (unless you are fighting Tim Sylvia).

Why?

Because with weak wrestling and scrambles, you will always be worried about getting taken down easily, and you won't let your hands go (so your boxing skills are not effective)... But if you are confident that you can stop your opponent from taking you down, or that you can get up easily if he get's you down, you will be relaxed, and will use your boxing skills with full power (like Anderson does).

Also, there is different kind of muscle work there... Put boxer in wrestling or thai clinch for two minutes, he will get dead tired, his arms will feel like ****, he won't be able to box like he usually does cause his arms will be so heavy.

But put boxer through some specific workouts, and it will be totally different story...

[-Antonio-]

What you fail to mention is the fact that Silva is very dangerous on the ground. He's also capable of hurtng you with knees and elbows.

[larrysmithx]

It's all about gameplan. If a Boxer (only knowing Boxing) goes in against an MMA fighter, do you really think they're going to try standing toe to toe? You also gotta think about kicks, knees, elbows, etc, things Boxers don't train to defend. yea, Silva boxed Griffin, but that doesn't mean every boxer goes in and does the same exact thing.

I think you're looking at it through a Boxing fan's perspective to make it seem that if one MMA uses boxing skills, then all Boxers can. Do you think Floyd would fight a pure brawler and brawl with him? Of course not...Same goes for any boxer fighting an MMA fighter. If you've watched any MMA matches, you'll see the Grappler always tries to take down the striker if they have that type of advantage over them. Just like Boxing, there is a strategy, not just 2 dudes swinging away.

didnt you just watch the vid where a VERY MEDIOCRE boxer kicked a UFC CHAMP's ass so bad???

[larrysmithx]

What you fail to mention is the fact that Silva is very dangerous on the ground. He's also capable of hurtng you with knees and elbows.

and you fail to realize he did not use any of that, just boxing and boxing won, a very mediocre boxer beat a great mixed martial artist.....GTFO

[Sudo]

and you fail to realize he did not use any of that, just boxing and boxing won, a very mediocre boxer beat a great mixed martial artist.....GTFO

and how come street fighter submitted that boxer after one minute of fighting (go to youtube, kimbo - mercer)??