Anderson Silva is proving that boxers can survive in UFC/MMA

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  • larrysmithx
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    #11
    Originally posted by DeltaSigChi4
    You two are very ****** human beings.

    If you put any boxer in there, with the exception of Kermit Cintron who was an elite HS wrestler, they will get taken down to the mat and beaten until they are a) near death; or b) saved by the third man in the ring.

    You don't know **** about the sport, have never insomuch as trained a single day in your pathetic lives, and approach the ignorance level of NASCAR cheapseat fans.

    E
    have you ever stepped into the RING or the gay ass CAGE? i dont think so.


    so STFU and GTFO.

    btw mma is so gay **** mma

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    • Left2theliver
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      #12
      Originally posted by Danny Gunz
      You are a very ****** person who is blinded by your ignorance.

      An elite boxer against a top MMA like griffin will always have a punchers chance, which proves time and time again is a very good chance.

      When you look at championship fights in the UFC with the exception of a few fighters most are won standing up. For example, if you put someone like roy jones jr. against anderson silva roy would probably knock him out, because lately silva is so determined to win by striking.

      Im not saying a boxer wins every time, but the fact a fight starts standing up will always give a boxer a very good chance to win.
      I think that would depend really, would Anderson be trading punchs? Or everything in the bag? Obviously if a top tier Mixed Martial Artist decided to trade punches with someone on the level of RJJ then it's lights out, BUT if a striker as good as anderson decided to utilize all his tools IE punches, kicks, knees, elbows then it'll be a long night for someone like RJJ, or rather, a short one. People forget that MMA is more than just boxing and takedowns. Kicks, clinching with some knees and elbows, and dirty boxing are a big part of the striking in MMA. Imagine if Anderson locked in a thai plum on RJJ...goodnight...

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      • larrysmithx
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        #13
        Originally posted by Left2theliver
        I think that would depend really, would Anderson be trading punchs? Or everything in the bag? Obviously if a top tier Mixed Martial Artist decided to trade punches with someone on the level of RJJ then it's lights out, BUT if a striker as good as anderson decided to utilize all his tools IE punches, kicks, knees, elbows then it'll be a long night for someone like RJJ, or rather, a short one. People forget that MMA is more than just boxing and takedowns. Kicks, clinching with some knees and elbows, and dirty boxing are a big part of the striking in MMA. Imagine if Anderson locked in a thai plum on RJJ...goodnight...
        STFU you mma clown. stay where you belong...the MMA lounge and GTFO of here you boxing hate. you dont belong on a boxing forum. so suck it!

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        • Steak
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          #14
          Im not going to say that a boxer would dominate in mma or anything...

          but theres no denying that Silva used nothing but boxing against Griffin and won. evade the subject all you want, he did not do anything but box him, didnt have to use takedown defence, didnt use kicks...just his hands.

          and then you have guys like KJ Noons or whatever his name is, who had wins over Yves Edwards and Nick Diaz. Diaz beat Takanori Gomi among others, so its a pretty good win. Noons guy is pretty much just a boxer, but the guy got beat by nobodies and bums in boxing.

          and then 48 year old Mercer stopping Sylvia faster than even Fedor did, and Sylvia was rated #6 in the world I believe. He was at least top ten.


          so...while its not the best sport for them and honestly would just be a waste of their boxing prowess, they can definately hang in there in mma IF they have the right strategy/right opponent.

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          • Sudo
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            #15
            Originally posted by dj emz


            Don't mistake ****** gameplan, with what would happen 99% of time... Look at this:

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOSEw5C_nVM (this is Akiyamas full contact fighting debut, and he was 50 lbs lighter than Botha).

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMzRsxSUiR4 (Nishijima, who has better boxing resume than Anderson by far) got owned by a brawler in a MMA fight.

            And Anderson has elite ground game together with great stand-up, boxer just has a stand-up (and limited stand-up without kicks, knees, elbows, clinch wrestling).

            Boxer has punchers chance, and nothing else... So does Kimbo.

            But to think that boxers can be successfull just with boxing is ignorance.
            Last edited by Sudo; 09-08-2009, 05:35 PM.

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            • Left2theliver
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              #16
              Originally posted by larrysmithx
              STFU you mma clown. stay where you belong...the MMA lounge and GTFO of here you boxing hate. you dont belong on a boxing forum. so suck it!
              Are you pissy because you're theory of "fighter A beat this guy with punches so boxer B can dominate" is bs? I'm a boxing hate? You mean a boxing hater? No, not quite, if i was hating on boxing i would never have joined this forum.

              Guys like you make boxing look REAL bad, so you're the one who doesn't belong here.

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              • Danny Gunz
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                #17
                Originally posted by Left2theliver
                I think that would depend really, would Anderson be trading punchs? Or everything in the bag? Obviously if a top tier Mixed Martial Artist decided to trade punches with someone on the level of RJJ then it's lights out, BUT if a striker as good as anderson decided to utilize all his tools IE punches, kicks, knees, elbows then it'll be a long night for someone like RJJ, or rather, a short one. People forget that MMA is more than just boxing and takedowns. Kicks, clinching with some knees and elbows, and dirty boxing are a big part of the striking in MMA. Imagine if Anderson locked in a thai plum on RJJ...goodnight...
                I understand, and that obviously is a possibility, a likely one. I should have worded it better, I'm trying to say someone like silva at the top of the game is known as a striker, and recently it seems he would rather strike then fight on the ground. So someone like him, and other guys like chuck liddell, rampage, and forrest griffin are very suspect to get knocked out by a good striker or a boxer.

                Im not saying a guy like roy would take the mma by storm and go undefeated i just mean there are so many variables in it that someone like roy jones jr. would have a legitimate shot to beat a champion.

                But a fighter like george st. pierre would always beat a boxer because he is a wrestling/ ground and pound first type fighter.

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                • Left2theliver
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Danny Gunz
                  I understand, and that obviously is a possibility, a likely one. I should have worded it better, I'm trying to say someone like silva at the top of the game is known as a striker, and recently it seems he would rather strike then fight on the ground. So someone like him, and other guys like chuck liddell, rampage, and forrest griffin are very suspect to get knocked out by a good striker or a boxer.

                  Im not saying a guy like roy would take the mma by storm and go undefeated i just mean there are so many variables in it that someone like roy jones jr. would have a legitimate shot to beat a champion.

                  But a fighter like george st. pierre would always beat a boxer because he is a wrestling/ ground and pound first type fighter.
                  of course, see now that clears everything up. Little misunderstanding there haha

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                  • Sudo
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Left2theliver

                    Guys like you make boxing look REAL bad, so you're the one who doesn't belong here.
                    Don't bother to explain that... You can't get reasonable here when it comes to subject of MMA.

                    Bunch of them still didn't realize that MMA and boxing are two different sports, two different disciplines, two different skill levels. It's like comparing apples to oranges.

                    If someone doesn't like it, don't watch it...

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                    • Left2theliver
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Sudo
                      Don't bother to explain that... You can't get reasonable here when it comes to subject of MMA.

                      Bunch of them still didn't realize that MMA and boxing are two different sports, two different disciplines, two different skill levels. It's like comparing apples to oranges.

                      If someone doesn't like it, don't watch it...
                      yeah i figured...some people...

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