Eastern European amateurs vs. Cuban amateurs in the Pros

[PeepeePoopooMan]

I wouldn't even argue with the guy, he's choosing ignorance. I remember you listing a few of these prospects a few months ago. I watched all of them and they all seemed pretty intriguing. As long as they get the opportunity for big fights.

Quoted the wrong guy. Also your other lone comment is ******.
"bu but this country has more people than this island". Dude gtfoh. Because They're all trained in boxing right? Boxing is much popular in Cuba than it is in any European country. Fn idiot.

[RoadOfTheGypsy]

I think its cause the european style is more "gritty"

But when it comes to boxing and styles, everyone can battle it out for second place, cause Mexico is awesome, and no I am not mexican, no bias here.

I love the mexican style of boxing, cubans are boring as one poster said.

[BendOver]

Some fans. The haven't watch any of these Cubans fight. Rigondeaux is a runner so every Cuban most be, not most be, they are boring. Go watch those boxers fight and let us know if you still believe they are boring.

[GrandpaBernard]

Erislandy Lara is my favorite Cuban for this reason

he has the grit to fight it out. Because in the pros sooner or later there will be an opponent who makes you fight. Doesn’t matter how cute you are

Erislandy pro boxing toughness + Rigo’s technical perfection would be the perfect cuban

[billeau2]

this is something I noticed.....it seems while Cuban amateurs end up being slightly more technically skilled, I noticed that E. European boxing (Ex Soviet/Ukraine/Russia/) amateurs tend to have more success in the pros. Of course this could be a generalization, but there is also that saying that the "Cuban style doesn't translate well"... is there a reason why the former has more success in the pros,

Do you even accept that premise in the first place?

Don't accept the premise... Both groups have phenomenal success in the pros. You just have to keep things in perspective. A lot of Cuban fighters are older when they enter the pros and are competative. Someone also said it best: CUba and Puerto Rico are phenominal considering the population... The Eastern Europeans have some special fighters for sure. But they favor a very amatuer based style.

[RightJabLikeZab]

Quoted the wrong guy. Also your other lone comment is ******.
"bu but this country has more people than this island". Dude gtfoh. Because They're all trained in boxing right? Boxing is much popular in Cuba than it is in any European country. Fn idiot.

My post had two explanations. Population size and availability of amateurs to turn pro. Baseball is actually the most popular sport in Cuba btw. Eastern Europe just flat out has a larger pool of boxers, so even if a lot of them choose not to fight professionally or accomplish anything at that level, they'll still have a huge advantage over a small country like Cuba where most of their best amateurs never even go pro. Boxrec has 50 Cubans listed fighting professionally and 800 combined from Russia/Ukraine. Your post actually supports my point lol. Boxing is so popular in Cuba and they have thousands that participate and take home so many medals every year yet only 50 professionally currently.

[RightJabLikeZab]

No we're not. I'm saying Cubans overall are boring my af. I'm not talking about prospects. Has dorticos even fought someone worth fighting?

He's only a 2x world champion at Cruiserweight with fights against Gassiev and Briedis.

[dan_cov]

I think its easy to forget how good, feared & dominant a lot of these Cubans were because the standards for most part was incredibly high. Rigondeaux, Gamboa, Lara, Abril, Yoan Pablo Hernandez were all dominant for many years
The standards for them are so high fighters like Rigo & Gamboa are actually looked at as underachievers/disappointing. Legit multi weight world champions that had top world champions running out their divisions.

I get calling Rigo boring, Lara at times but to label Cuban boxing as boring overall is a bit ridiculous.
Frank Sanchez, Dorticos, Ortiz, David Morrell Jr are all pretty dynamite. Ugas is rarely in a snoozer either
Lots of more aggressive Cubans coming up, many aggressive counter-puncher types with pop in the lower divisions.

[garfios]

No we're not. I'm saying Cubans overall are boring my af. I'm not talking about prospects. Has dorticos even fought someone worth fighting?

yes he has, and you haven't answered my question. How many Cuban fighters are boring?

[garfios]

I think its easy to forget how good, feared & dominant a lot of these Cubans were because the standards for most part was incredibly high. Rigondeaux, Gamboa, Lara, Abril, Yoan Pablo Hernandez were all dominant for many years
The standards for them are so high fighters like Rigo & Gamboa are actually looked at as underachievers/disappointing. Legit multi weight world champions that had top world champions running out their divisions.

I get calling Rigo boring, Lara at times but to label Cuban boxing as boring overall is a bit ridiculous.
Frank Sanchez, Dorticos, Ortiz, David Morrell Jr are all pretty dynamite. Ugas is rarely in a snoozer either
Lots of more aggressive Cubans coming up, many aggressive counter-puncher types with pop in the lower divisions.

I gave him a few names, pretty sure he checked them out, if he is truly a fan. But he won't say anything, but you know what, barring an injury, he will be heard from Morell Jr., Gomez, Bruzon and Ariel Perez, the latest addition to Salas stable. Not Morell Jr, he's with another trainer in Minnesota, but with only five fights, he's making a lot of noise.