Comments Thread For: Fury's Father Defends Joshua: Give AJ a Break, It Was His Corner's Fault

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  • champion4ever
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    #31
    Originally posted by Noelanthony

    Did Joshua go for the kill? He had USYK hurt also with single shots. threw no combinations and threw 2 uppercuts all night. The one to the stomach hurt Usyk. . Listen he was embarrassed and beat up there is no denying that but can he do better in the rematch? tactically he cant do any worse
    You are absolutely right. AJ fought like he was scared. He wouldn't fully commit on none of his punches. To me it seems, he is having trust issues with both his chin and his stamina; To the point where he no longer wants to engage. After all, Usyk did buzz him in the third round for crying aloud and went a full four rounds without throwing a single punch and Joshua didn't do nothing.

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    • Frankie Coffeecake
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      #32
      Originally posted by BangEM

      Do you think AJ would get the decision in the rematch, say, he were to win 6/7 rds? I said this because there's so much anti-AJ bias out there and if I hadn't watched the fight live and rewatched it multiple times - you'd have thought it was a total beatdown based on the noise out there. But the fight was very close and competitive until the late rds. And if AJ had started fast - he would've nicked it.
      The good news for AJ is that ignoring the hype, all he actually has to do in the rematch is win, say 5 rounds, and NOT gas out and get lit up in the 12th and that would be a massive improvement, would restore a fair bit of his standing and he would still be a superstar but just that Usyk is a bad style match up for him.

      He doesn't even need to win the fight, if he does the above and is more competetive that would be a good result. He's not protecting an 0 anymore and everyone expects him to get blown out in the rematch so there's no pressure on him and so even another loss if its close and competetive won't damage him.

      Put it like this.

      If Fury beats Wilder again

      Joshua loses to Usyk but does slightly better

      Would you not want to see AJ vs Wilder?

      That fight would still be massive and ppv lol

      And if Fury beats Usyk in the meantime would you not then want to see Fury vs AJ coming off a Wilder win? That fight would still be massive on ppv.

      As much as some people want it to be over for Joshua it isn't lol.
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      Last edited by Frankie Coffeecake; 09-29-2021, 06:00 AM.

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      • NachoMan
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        #33
        Originally posted by champion4ever
        Damn it! The corner can devise the game plan but is up to the fighter to implement it and execute that game plan. Once a fighter gives up on himself then his corner has no choice but to give up on him. When a fighter loses confidence in his own ability to take a punch or to throw punches then he is done. He is finished. There is no amount of coaching that could bring him back from that. He has to believe in himself or he won't produce or commit.
        So what do you suppose was the trainer’s game plan? From the sound of it, it seemed as they thought their man was fighting “brilliantly.” They never yelled at him, slapped him in the mouth or pleaded for him to do more. Nobody said “ you’re blowing it, kid” when everybody else in the stadium could plainly see that he was doing just that. He needs a new team.

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        • Noelanthony
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          #34
          Originally posted by deathofaclown

          His corner kept shouting “beautiful AJ” ..”beautiful feet” while he was stood static getting cracked with straight left hands down the pipe

          It was bizarre
          Damn right ridiculous

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          • GlassJoey
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            #35
            Originally posted by deathofaclown

            His corner kept shouting “beautiful AJ” ..”beautiful feet” while he was stood static getting cracked with straight left hands down the pipe

            It was bizarre
            Standard corner work when a U.K. fight is fixed. Reminds me of Lewis Ritson’s corner and some from a few other blatant U.K. robberies. The only surprise is the cards were not fixed. I had a possible draw with only giving 2 dubious rounds to AJ but no judge had him that close.

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            • Noelanthony
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              #36
              Originally posted by NachoMan

              So what do you suppose was the trainer’s game plan? From the sound of it, it seemed as they thought their man was fighting “brilliantly.” They never yelled at him, slapped him in the mouth or pleaded for him to do more. Nobody said “ you’re blowing it, kid” when everybody else in the stadium could plainly see that he was doing just that. He needs a new team.
              1000% . I'm usually not one to call on wholesale changes after a fight considering it was the same team that got him there but he needs one. Having said that its worrying also when a fighter who is actually in the ring taking the blows can not switch it up and at least go for broke

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              • deathofaclown
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                #37
                Originally posted by Noelanthony

                1000% . I'm usually not one to call on wholesale changes after a fight considering it was the same team that got him there but he needs one. Having said that its worrying also when a fighter who is actually in the ring taking the blows can not switch it up and at least go for broke
                They’re a load of yes men because they’re making so much money off him.

                Apparently their game plan in camp was to outbox Usyk. Firstly, that’s absolutely insane.

                I can only assume nobody in his team had the guts to say “Look, you’re not a great boxer, no matter how much you would love to be and think you are. You cannot box with Usyk” and let reality set in and try to come up with a realistic game plan.

                Im not sure how much difference it would make, I think Usyk is just a level above but at least give yourself half a chance instead of trying to beat him at his own game.

                I think AJ is just as dumb as Wilder in boxing terms, absolutely living in fantasy land and refuse to accept their huge flaws. AJ still thinks he’s some slick ring technician. And both have teams that are unwilling to give them a dose of reality.


                Wilder comes across as more outwardly ****** because of things he says, but they’re rather similar in their delusions about boxing, and their teams of backslappers.
                Last edited by deathofaclown; 09-29-2021, 06:11 AM.

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                • Bronx2245
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by BangEM

                  Stop spamming an irresponsible excuse on the thread. He was in camp with Hunter and Hunter said it's a lie and the weight was a strategy for power.

                  Why do you lot make excuses for other boxers but disregard excuses made for AJ? Spence said AJ injured his right arm before last saturday's fight and it has been blacked out by everyone.

                  Ruiz won via a lucky punch and got outboxed in the rematch. End it there!
                  Spence? Are you talking about Errol Spence?

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                  • Toffee
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Iamsmoke89
                    Look there is no way aj beats Usyk and that's that
                    I can respect a lot of views. But not this one.

                    This opinion is as bad as the people before this fight who said Usyk had no chance.

                    Regardless of the outcome, you're wrong. Joshua has a chance against any boxer in the world.

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                    • Liondw
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                      #40
                      Don't just blame the corner, blame Joshua. He couldn't make the adjustments required in the last third of the fight, or for most of the fight.

                      Give credit to Usyk, he just boxed AJ's ears off, and could've knocked him out too.

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